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P.S.from AnFox:1.Sorry, my rant wasn't a comment on 2Peter3:12, but on some of the comments ON same. I saw no place for general comments. 2.This does seem to be a very useful website, with some interesting comments. 3. My open question to webmasters: DO you vet these comments? You would do us all, and the Lord, a service if you would copy-edit them. Not everyone has equal command of the English language, nor is everyone a native speaker. I & probably others would be happy to volunteer to help.
- An Fox (1/8/2015 1:36:28 AM)
GOOD GRIEF, CHRISTIANS! "Whatsoever ye do, do it with all your might,... AS TO THE LORD." "Love the Lord with all your MIND and heart and strength." “STUDY to show thyself approved…” We should be doing things more beautifully, with greater care & consid for how they effect others- if they are for others! Consider your neighbour(s)- those who are trying to read what you write here! If it’s not for others, why write here? - It's so easy to dash off our thoughts quickly & hit RETURN, I know; but really, truly, a lot of this is unreadable! It's illegible. IT'S GIBBERISH! You should care that the comments section of this Christian site- a site that provides scholarly tools for serious Bible study- looks more like monkey scratch than the comments on Yahoo or Elite or MNBC do! If this is a site for studying the word of GOD-- and unbelievers drop by to see what's up- OMGosh!! - For some of these entries one can make out some of what you're trying to communicate. BUT it's such a high-focus effort for so few little dry peas, at best! It feels like picking one's way barefoot in the dark through a brake of dead thorn trees with low-lying poison ivy growing over snaggle-toothed broken cobblestones heaved up by some old earthquake. NO JOY! I'm probably not the only one who GIVES UP TRYING to read what you're trying to say after just a few itchy, scratchy, stumbling, bumbling, squinting, peering, parsing, puffing, expostulating, exasperating, PAINFUL moments of trying to read your text. - YOU MAY EVEN HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY! - If YOU really believe that you do, it may INTEREST you to TAKE a MOMENT to make it readable to OTHER PEOPLE. Suggestions: 1.READ your own text! 2. AGAIN! 3. GET SOME EDITING HELP from a friend who loves the language. 4. Read it AGAIN! 5. Use a spell-checker- then READ your text carefully AFTER you spell-check it. IT DOESN'T TAKE THAT LONG. Consider: If YOU don’t feel like reading your text- who else will? 6. Go really wild & buy a book on grammar, w/exercises in the back, & bone up on it, doing a few per day. Heaven YES! No, it isn’t BORING! ENGLISH IS AN AMAZING LANGUAGE. It's also an endangered language. WE don’t have to be AMONG THOSE WHO MUTILATE IT UNTO EXTINCTION BECAUSE WE'RE LAZY & wilfully ignorant. - Ask yourselves this: How would YOU like GOD to have delivered His wonderful Word to us, all 66 books in their various languages, EACH IN AS MANGLED A FORM AS SOME OF THESE POOR LI’L COMMENTS? - Love, AFox
- an fox (1/7/2015 11:16:10 PM)
It is not correctly translated with an "?". Just compare with the cross-references
http://www.openbible.info/labs/cross-references/search?q=2+Peter+3%3A7
- Paul (10/29/2014 9:39:29 AM)
This verse ends in a "?" in the KJV and ASV but an "!" in the NASB. Others end with an ";". This affects the meaning. in verse 11-12 Peter says (KJV):
"Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?"
Then in verse 15 Peter tells us that "account that the long-suffering of our God is salvation;"
Is Peter questioning our looking for the coming of the day of the Lord since it brings destruction and an end to the long-suffering of our Lord ? Does our looking for it "hasten" the day of the Lord ? Is that the "error of the wicked" (v17) who "received not the love of the truth" (2 Thessalonians 2:10 KJV). Is this a part of the judgement that must begin at the house of God ? (1 Peter 4:17)... namely those in the church, that did not believe in the love of the truth ? Even if that's so, when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world (1 Cor 11:32).
I would like opinions on the "?" at the end of verse 12...
- Chris (10/17/2014 6:37:22 AM)
- An Fox (1/8/2015 1:36:28 AM)
GOOD GRIEF, CHRISTIANS! "Whatsoever ye do, do it with all your might,... AS TO THE LORD." "Love the Lord with all your MIND and heart and strength." “STUDY to show thyself approved…” We should be doing things more beautifully, with greater care & consid for how they effect others- if they are for others! Consider your neighbour(s)- those who are trying to read what you write here! If it’s not for others, why write here? - It's so easy to dash off our thoughts quickly & hit RETURN, I know; but really, truly, a lot of this is unreadable! It's illegible. IT'S GIBBERISH! You should care that the comments section of this Christian site- a site that provides scholarly tools for serious Bible study- looks more like monkey scratch than the comments on Yahoo or Elite or MNBC do! If this is a site for studying the word of GOD-- and unbelievers drop by to see what's up- OMGosh!! - For some of these entries one can make out some of what you're trying to communicate. BUT it's such a high-focus effort for so few little dry peas, at best! It feels like picking one's way barefoot in the dark through a brake of dead thorn trees with low-lying poison ivy growing over snaggle-toothed broken cobblestones heaved up by some old earthquake. NO JOY! I'm probably not the only one who GIVES UP TRYING to read what you're trying to say after just a few itchy, scratchy, stumbling, bumbling, squinting, peering, parsing, puffing, expostulating, exasperating, PAINFUL moments of trying to read your text. - YOU MAY EVEN HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY! - If YOU really believe that you do, it may INTEREST you to TAKE a MOMENT to make it readable to OTHER PEOPLE. Suggestions: 1.READ your own text! 2. AGAIN! 3. GET SOME EDITING HELP from a friend who loves the language. 4. Read it AGAIN! 5. Use a spell-checker- then READ your text carefully AFTER you spell-check it. IT DOESN'T TAKE THAT LONG. Consider: If YOU don’t feel like reading your text- who else will? 6. Go really wild & buy a book on grammar, w/exercises in the back, & bone up on it, doing a few per day. Heaven YES! No, it isn’t BORING! ENGLISH IS AN AMAZING LANGUAGE. It's also an endangered language. WE don’t have to be AMONG THOSE WHO MUTILATE IT UNTO EXTINCTION BECAUSE WE'RE LAZY & wilfully ignorant. - Ask yourselves this: How would YOU like GOD to have delivered His wonderful Word to us, all 66 books in their various languages, EACH IN AS MANGLED A FORM AS SOME OF THESE POOR LI’L COMMENTS? - Love, AFox
- an fox (1/7/2015 11:16:10 PM)
It is not correctly translated with an "?". Just compare with the cross-references
http://www.openbible.info/labs/cross-references/search?q=2+Peter+3%3A7
- Paul (10/29/2014 9:39:29 AM)
This verse ends in a "?" in the KJV and ASV but an "!" in the NASB. Others end with an ";". This affects the meaning. in verse 11-12 Peter says (KJV):
"Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?"
Then in verse 15 Peter tells us that "account that the long-suffering of our God is salvation;"
Is Peter questioning our looking for the coming of the day of the Lord since it brings destruction and an end to the long-suffering of our Lord ? Does our looking for it "hasten" the day of the Lord ? Is that the "error of the wicked" (v17) who "received not the love of the truth" (2 Thessalonians 2:10 KJV). Is this a part of the judgement that must begin at the house of God ? (1 Peter 4:17)... namely those in the church, that did not believe in the love of the truth ? Even if that's so, when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world (1 Cor 11:32).
I would like opinions on the "?" at the end of verse 12...
- Chris (10/17/2014 6:37:22 AM)
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