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#1 Comment on Isaiah 62:10
Isaiah 62:10 ¶ Go through, 5674 z8798 go through 5674 z8798 the gates; 8179 prepare 6437 z8761 ye the way 1870 of the people; 5971 cast up, 5549 z8798 cast up 5549 z8798 the highway; 4546 gather out 5619 z8761 the stones; 68 x4480 lift up 7311 z8685 a standard 5251 for x5921 the people. 5971 Isaiah 62:10 Go through 5674 cross over 5674 reckon the gate 8179 go turn face the 6437 journey 1870 the 9005 people 7159 waves 5549 waves 5549 is the 9005 path 4546 go gather make weighty 5619 go out to 4480set the ballast 0068 go raise high 7311 the sail 5251 above 5921the 9005 people. 5971 Go through go through the gates prepare ye the way of the people; ( prepare ye the way of the people to do what ???) to go through gates yes now you got it! But why dont they walk? remember Peter when he tried. cast up the highway for what ? to go through the open gate. The ocean ? the highway is the boat to go through gates yes now you got it! gather out the stones . gather stones for what? a ballast for the boat so the boat wont flip in a storm. oh. Lift up a standard a standard of what. look up the word.ok. standard, signal, signal pole, ensign, banner, sign, sail. Now what is lifted above a boat? A sail. yes a sail . Isaiah 60 Who are these that fly as a cloud, and as the doves to their windows? I dont now? They are like doves looking out of thier dove houses looking out thier windows flying above them billowing white sails . Dont you see? Surely the isles shall wait for me, and the ships of Tarshish first, to bring thy sons from far, their silver and their gold with them, unto the name of the LORD thy God, and to the Holy One of Israel, because he hath glorified thee.The ships of Tarshish?1906 Jewish Encyclopedia : many later scholars, identifies Tarshish with Tartessus, mentioned by Herodotus and Strabo as a district of southern Spain; Spain! Who Discovered the USA?Christopher Columbus!In 1484 Columbus began seeking support for an Atlantic crossing from King John II of Portugal but was denied aid. By 1486 Columbus was firmly in Spain, asking for patronage from King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella. After at least two rejections, he at last obtained royal support in January 1492.Isaiah 60: 22 A little one shall become a thousand, and a small one a strong nation: I the LORD will hasten it in his time. Zion's Salvation and New Name Isaiah 621For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth.2And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name.3Thou shalt also be a crown of glory in the hand of the LORD, and a royal diadem in the hand of thy God.3Thou shalt also be a crown of glory in the hand of the LORD, and a royal diadem in the hand of thy God.4Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the LORD delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married.5For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee. Do you see thy land shall be married as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee. Where is that virgin land? The Restoration of Israel! Isaiah 49
- dd (5/12/2017 10:00:32 AM)

#2 Comment on Ecclesiastes 1:2
Futility of futilities, said Kohelet, futility of futilities; all is futility.
- Simona (4/30/2017 4:50:35 PM) [qBible.com]

#3 Comment on Isaiah 30:1
Isaiah 30 911 world trade center usa !! Isaiah 30:8 Now go, write it before them in a table, and note it in a book, that it may be for the time to come for ever and ever:9 That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the Lord:10 Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:10 Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:11 Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us.11 Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us.12 Wherefore thus saith the Holy One of Israel, Because ye despise this word, and trust in oppression and perverseness, and stay thereon:13 Therefore this iniquity shall be to you as a breach ready to fall, swelling out in a high wall, whose breaking cometh suddenly at an instant.14 And he shall break it as the breaking of the potters' vessel that is broken in pieces; he shall not spare: so that there shall not be found in the bursting of it a sherd to take fire from the hearth, or to take water withal out of the pit.25 And there shall be upon every high mountain, and upon every high hill, rivers and streams of waters in the day of the great slaughter, when the towers fall. Well it sounds like 911 but what about this verse:19 For the people shall dwell in Zion at Jerusalem: thou shalt weep no more: he will be very gracious unto thee at the voice of thy cry; when he shall hear it, he will answer thee. Dont you see foolish Christian it takes place in the middle east in Jerusalem! But what about this verse: Hosea 12:10 I have also spoken by the prophets, and I have multiplied visions, and used similitudes, by the ministry of the prophets. Is this a similitudes, by the ministry of the prophets.No of course not Isaiah 30 is not about 911 it takes place in Jerusalem! But will you believe our king Jesus if he speaks to you ? How can My king Jesus speak to me? From a land far away that the towers fell in the United States of America! You have gone mad. nope! Behold King Jesus! Isaiah 33:17 Thine eyes shall see the king in his beauty: they shall behold the land that is very far off.18 Thine heart shall meditate terror. Where is the scribe? where is the receiver? where is he that counted the towers? Isaiah 30:8 At this time 6258 go 0935 write her 3789 on 5921 a table,3871 near them 0854 and 9007upon 5921 a book 5612 inscribe her a law 2710 and 9007 it will be1961 belonging to 9009 the days 3117 the last days 0314 for 9009 a witness 5707 even to 5704 `olam 5769 olam means: long duration concealed out to a future day Here is your witness : The 911 Act was enacted on October 26, 1999 President Clinton signed the bill into law , known as Public Law No: 106-81.[2]


- dd (5/4/2017 5:27:59 PM)

#4 Comment on 1 Timothy 1:7
God did not give us a spirit of fear;but of power,love,and a sound mind.God loves us all,and He is mighty in power;and with His love perfect love casts out fear.
- Denny (5/14/2016 3:52:35 PM)

#5 Comment on Psalms 94:17
What's hell?
Silence=grave=death=hell
According to Latin Vulgate translated by Ronald Knox:
Inferno=Resting place.
It's time to open the eyes and see the DIVINE TRUTH.
- walter (5/19/2017 6:24:48 PM) [qBible.com]

#6 Comment on 2 Corinthians 13:14
The Trinitarian formula is being found in most old manuscripts, namely: Latin Vulgate, Peshita, Codex Sinaiticus, Alexandrinus, Codex Bezae Cantabrigiensis. The best tool I found in the internet to see it with one glance is: The second formula in the New Testament we have in: "(Textus Receptus, Novum Testamentum, Theodore Beza, 4th folio edition. Geneva. 1598): 2 Corinthians 13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen." - This is supported by: The complete Latin Vulgate as written by St. Jeromes, The Douay-Rheims English translation in parallel w/ original commentary. For this text, as well as Matthew 28:19 see: The entire King James Version in parallel for an alternative semantic translation: http://textus-receptus.com/wiki/2_Corinthians_13:14 Matthew Henry writes: "The apostolic benediction (2 Corinthians 13:14): The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Thus the apostle concludes his epistle, and thus it is usual and proper to dismiss worshipping assemblies. This plainly proves the doctrine of the gospel, and is an acknowledgment that Father, Son, and Spirit, are three distinct persons, yet but one God; and herein the same, that they are the fountain of all blessings to men. It likewise intimates our duty, which is to have an eye by faith to Father, Son, and Holy Ghost — to live in a continual regard to the three persons in the Trinity, into whose name we were baptized, and in whose name we are blessed. This is a very solemn benediction, and we should give all diligence to inherit this blessing. The grace of Christ, the love of God, and the communion (or communication) of the Holy Ghost: the grace of Christ as Redeemer, the love of God who sent the Redeemer, and all the communications of this grace and love, which come to us by the Holy Ghost; it is the communications of the Holy Ghost that qualify us for an interest in the grace of Christ, and the love of God: and we can desire no more to make us happy than the grace of Christ, the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost. Amen." http://www.latinvulgate.com/lv/verse.aspx?t=1&b=8&c=13 for Matthew: https://greeknewtestament.net/mt28-19
The second more explicit tool is: http://textus-receptus.com/wiki/Matthew_28:19 - Now the third hottest descated Trinitarian formula is the Comma Johanneum, of which I came to the conclusion, that it is of very early origin and much more well supported than admitted! This verse has for some reason been deleted from most modern Bibles, despite there is no difference between the formula found in the great commission and in the benediction of 2 Corinthians. Those texts have been retained for other reasons, since they are part of a sacrament (baptism) and one of two benedictions given in most churches at the end of services, the second being the Aaronic blessing: "24 The Lord bless you and keep you: 25 The Lord make his face to shine upon you, and be gracious to you: 26 The Lord lift up his countenance upon you, and give you peace. (Numbers 6) My feeling is, there was just no need for such a formula in 1. John 5:7, making it three formulas for the Trinity, which would make senses. I had already given up on the subject, when I found these new tools in the internet, where you can see at once glance, that this passage actually is well supported and has been debated, after it already had been accepted by Luther, the Roman Catholic Church and the Anglican Church as part of the New Testament! So, it is rather by "enlightened theologians" who were against this passage and after many long debates, it has been now deleted from most of our Bibles! Text: "And there are Three who give testimony in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost. And these three are one." - and Latin Version: "quia tres sunt qui testimonium dant in caelo, Pater, Verbum, et Spiritus Sanctus. Et hi tres unum sunt" (Latin Vulgate as written by St. Jeromes) Argument for the inclusiond: "It stood basically unchallenged in English Bibles for four hundred years. It is the English ecclesiastical line for the past 500 years with first English Bible of John Wycliffe in 1380, William Tyndale’s New Testament of 1525, Coverdale’s Bible of 1535, in Matthew’s Bible of 1537, the Taverner’s Bible of 1539, the Great Bible of 1539, the Geneva New Testament of 1557, the Bishop’s Bible of 1568, and the King James Version of 1611. Trinitarianism is an orthodox position, and those who attack trinitarianism have rejected this verse. The fact that the very best of English translators, as well as many preachers, theologians, church leaders, editors, and the highest levels of scholarship have accepted the verse as well as many learned men who today still accept the Trinitarian statement in 1 John 5:7 needs to be acknowledged. Five centuries of English Christians acceptation of a verse that does not cause one to err or be deceived but rather enhances the doctrine of the trinity, should not quickly be rejected; let alone the many other language groups that have the verse, the huge amount of Old Latin and Vulgate manuscripts containing it, and its mention by early church witnesses. In the seventeenth century the framers of the Westminster Confession of Faith accepted the inclusion of 1 John 5.7–8 and used it to defend the doctrine of the Trinity." The Council of Catarge states: "Church Council of Carthage (485 A.D.) Eugenius was the spokesman for the bishops of Africa, Mauritania, Sardinia, Corsica and the Balearick Isles, these bishops numbered in the 300’s that stood in defense of the Trinity and used 1 John 5:7-8. Arians didn't believe in the deity of Jesus Christ. The bishops used 1 John 5:7-8 against the Arians proving Jesus is God and God is a Trinity. ‘Victor of Vitensis, Historia persecutionis Africanae’ His words are recorded, : ‘…and in order that we may teach until now, more clearly than light, that the Holy Spirit is now one divinity with the Father and the Son. It is proved by the evangelist John, for he says, ‘there are three which bear testimony in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one’." - Even earlier mentions are: " Athanasius (c. 296 – 373 AD) or Pseudo-Athanasius (c. 350 - c. 600 AD). "
"But also, is not that sin-remitting, life-giving and sanctifying washing [baptism], without which, no one shall see the kingdom of heaven, given to the faithful in the Thrice-Blessed Name? In addition to all these, 'John affirms, and these three are one.'" (350 AD) - John Calvin on the Comma said: "However, the passage flows better when this clause is added, and as I see that it is found in the best and most approved copies, I am inclined to receive it as the true reading." "There are three that bear record in heaven"
...And the meaning would be, that God, in order to confirm most abundantly our faith in Christ, testifies in three ways that we ought to acquiesce in him. For as our faith acknowledges three persons in the one divine essence, so it is called in so really ways to Christ that it may rest on him.
When he says, These three are one, he refers not to essence, but on the contrary to consent; as though he had said that the Father and his eternal Word and Spirit harmoniously testify the same thing respecting Christ. Hence some copies have e?? ??, "for one." But though you read ?? e?s??, as in other copies, yet there is no doubt but that the Father, the Word and the Spirit are said to be one, in the same sense in which afterwards the blood and the water and the Spirit are said to agree in one." John Calvin, Commentaries on the catholic epistles, tr. and ed. by John Owen, 1855, p. 258. - Matthew Henry
"We are stopped in our course by the contest there is about the genuineness of v. 7. It is alleged that many old Greek manuscripts have it not. It should seem that the critics are not agreed what manuscripts have it and what not; nor do they sufficiently inform us of the integrity and value of the manuscripts they peruse...There are some rational surmises that seem to support the present text and reading."
"The seventh verse is very agreeable to the style and the theology of our apostle...Facundus acknowledges that Cyprian says that of his three it is written, Et hi tres unum sunt—and these three are one. NOW THESE ARE THE WORDS, NOT OF V. 8, BUT OF V. 7. They are not used concerning the three on earth, the Spirit, the water, and the blood; but the three in heaven, the Father, and the Word, and the Holy Ghost...If all the Greek manuscripts and ancient versions say concerning the Spirit, the water, and the blood, that in unum sunt—they agree in one, then it was not of them that Cyprian spoke, whatever variety there might be in the copies in his time, when he said it is written, unum sunt—they are one. And therefore Cyprian's words seem still to be a firm testimony to V. 7." http://textus-receptus.com/wiki/1_John_5:7

- Christof Bucherer M.Div. (4/29/2017 12:02:29 PM)

#7 Comment on Isaiah 30:5
Zechariah 14:5 And therefore ,they did stand his feet, at day, this day ,above mountain this olives, which against faces (her Jerusalem) out of east, and therefore ,to cleave mountain the olives ,out of his half her east and also her west, valley great exceedingly ,then to depart, half this mountain her north,and his half her south. And (you did)ensign a flag:we will keep secret (split )valley of my mountain now touchs with the (great)valley of the mountains facing Azal = "proximity: he has reserved" and (you did)ensign a flag: we will keep secret ) as when (you did) flag a secret from out of before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Jehudah, and comes Jehovah my Elohim [and] all your saints with thee. 5127 flee does not match. 2LetterLookup - Ancient Lexicons for Greek... Hebrew... Aramaic look it up on google 2LetterLookup. first two letters come up as flag last two letters match suffix you did and the other possibility is the first letter is a Prefix we will and the last three letter translated to keep secret we will keep secret.And if it is secreted then maybe both apply. Zechariah 14 :6 and 9007shall come to pass 1961 in that 9004day 3117 this 9005 they 1931 not 3808 will exist 1961 illumination [of mind ] 2016 weighty prized precious, 3368 [ They will ] congeal, settle, become 7087 and 9007 be brought together. The two halfs of mount olives cross the Atlantic ocean the exceedingly great valley of mountains. Following the coordinates from mount olives 31 37 22 50 west you will be in Georgia then heading north you will be in Massachusets these are 13 colonies of Christian Zion . The mount olives is the people of God spread out in the land from South to North. And the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee the LORD my God shall come to America and all the saints with him. But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light. Israel is 7 hours ahead of Boston, MA , sunset in Israel depending on the time of year is 7:00 PM thus night in isreal. At 12:00 pm in boston the sun is shining, the sun is shining at night because the Lord moved his people. Isaiah 49 Sing,O heavens; and be joyful, O earth; and break forth into singing, O mountains: for the LORD hath comforted his people, and will have mercy upon his afflicted.But Zion said,The LORD hath forsaken me, and my Lord hath forgotten me. Can a woman forget her sucking child, that she should not have compassion on the son of her womb? yea, they may forget, yet will I not forget thee.Behold,I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands; thy walls are continually before me.Thy children shall make haste; thy destroyers and they that made thee waste shall go forth of thee.Lift up thine eyes round about, and behold: all these gather themselves together, and come to thee. As I live, saith the LORD, thou shalt surely clothe thee with them all, as with an ornament, and bind them on thee, as a bride doeth.For thy waste and thy desolate places, and the land of thy destruction, shall even now be too narrow by reason of the inhabitants, and they that swallowed thee up shall be far away.the children which thou shalt have, after thou hast lost the other, shall say again in thine ears, The place is too strait for me: give place to me that I may dwell.
- dd (3/28/2017 6:43:36 AM)

#8 Comment on 2 Peter 3:13
Dear A Fox,

Why bother to sign your post with a "Love,AFox"? It was not very loving and I must point out your post had many misspellings, grammatical errors, etc. Did you run spell check? I think not. If you are posting it should be to help someone who is seeking or to enlighten or encourage others.
- Bones (3/20/2017 1:51:23 PM)

#9 Comment on Luke 9:51
This verse has been misinterpreted down through the years. It is not alluding to our Lords Ascension, but of His 'going up' to Jerusalem to the Feast of Tabernacles. Why would His Ascension be in question this early when it is at least six months hence?. It makes no sense. The odd choice of words here...analempsis...would be better translated as His 'retirement'. The word before it, sumpleroo, means to be completed or accomplished. So, this is not speaking of His Ascension then. It means the time was come that Jesus must no longer retire from Judea and the area around Jerusalem. He had been staying around the Galilee to avoid the Jews' laying hold of Him before His ministry was ended, and full proof of His divine mission given, and some of the prophecies concerning Him accomplished. In those days, one 'went up' to Jerusalem to the feasts. Three that were required to attend in Jerusalem were Passover, Pentecost, and Tabernacles. Here, Jesus is setting His sights on Jerusalem to 'go up' to the Feast of Tabernacles. The Hebrew reads, 'aliyah' meaning 'to go up'. So, this passage has nothing to do with His 'going up to Heaven', but 'going up' to Jerusalem...because He has to despite the Pharisees and 'Jews' that want to lay hold of Him.
- cody927 (3/28/2017 5:41:22 PM) [qBible.com]

#10 Comment on Isaiah 30:8
Isaiah 30, Isaiah 31, Isaiah 32,and, Isaiah 33. The prophecies to the rebellious children of Zion, a Christian nation in the last days. ( Woe to the rebellious children: Isaiah 30:2 That walk to go down into Mixrayim and have not asked at my mouth; to strengthen themselves in the strength and to trust in the shadow of Mixrayim . Mitsrajim is, Upper and Lower Egypt: . Kjv Hosea 12:10 I have also spoken by the prophets, and I have multiplied visions, and used similitudes, by the ministry of the prophets. This is a similitude! The rebellious children of Zion descend down into Egypt. They descend from where? They descend down into Egypt from land that the towers fell. This is the same people that God speaks to in : Isaiah 33:20 Look upon Zion,the city of our solemnities: thine eyes shall see Jerushalem, a quiet habitation, a tabernacle [that] shall not be taken down; not one of the stakes thereof shall ever be removed, neither shall any of the cords thereof be broken. Again God is speaking to the people in whose land where the towers fell ,it is the land where the glorious Yähwè [will be] unto us a place of broad rivers [and] streams . God tells us in the book of Galatians that there are two Jersalems and that the one above is the mother to Christians. Galatians 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. God has therefore told the country where the towers fell to look up and see Jerusalem,he identifies this country as a Christian nation.Then God again speaks to the land where the tower fell and he says in Isaiah 33:14 The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings? But why are they afraid? Because a great war is going to take place in the country where the towers fell ! God again speaks to the land where the towers fell :Isaiah32:14 Because the palaces shall be forsaken; the multitude of the city shall be left; the forts and towers shall be for dens for ever, a joy of wild asses, a pasture of flocks; Isaiah 33:7 Behold, their valiant ones shall cry without: the ambassadors of peace shall weep bitterly. Civil war? Isaiah 33:8 The highways lie waste, the wayfaring man ceaseth: he hath broken the covenant, he hath despised the cities, he regardeth no man. He hath broken the covenant does that mean the constitution ? All this takes place in the land that the towers fell ! Isaiah 33:23 Thy tacklings are loosed; they could not well strengthen their mast, they could not spread the sail: then is the prey of a great spoil divided; the lame take the prey. The following is a clear translation from the hebrew of this same verse that you just read and this it what it says . Isaiah 33:23 They did smite 5203 your territory,2256 not 1077 could they fasten 2388 to set 3651 thier pole 8650 not 1077 could they spread 6566 (thier) flag 5251 at this place 0227 those that sliped in 2505 who aimed 5706 to take a plunder 7998 great 4766 those lamed(in the battle)6455 they do plunder those who plundered them 0962 & 0957 Is the United States of America Christian Zion? What Does the Bible say? Does scriptural evidence of this exist ? Oh Yes ,most certainly it does exist.
- dd (4/25/2017 4:49:29 PM)

#11 Comment on Song of Songs 3:7
In Song of Songs 3:7, the threescore valiant men, who are the valiant of Israel exhibit the prevailing victory of the heroes of war. As David’s mighty men of honor was counted to be thirty, so here sixty denotes double the honor and victory that surround the Beloved King and His rest. At the cross of Christ, Jesus conquered with triumph over every evil to protect and carry out God the Father’s good pleasure (Col.2:14-15). As we are joined by faith and love to our Beloved conqueror, we share His victory that protects and carries out the Father’s interest, name, kingdom, will, and glory! “In all things we are more that conquerors through him who loved us” (Rom. 8:37).
- Frank Pytel, "The Two Become One" (4/9/2017 5:44:09 AM)

#12 Comment on Nehemiah 9:28
La misericordia de Abba sobrepasa nuestro entendimiento
- Vilma de Novoa (4/26/2017 5:33:09 AM)

#13 Comment on Isaiah 30:11
God is describing through Isaiah a great and high wall that will collapse because of a "FALLING BREACH" up on the wall. Now then, who has ever heard of a stone wall or tower falling down because some stones came loose or broke out higher UP on the wall. The breach would merely fall down and have virtually no effect on the wall beneath it. Yet with the World Trade Towers, in both cases, it was a breach high up on the walls that brought down the entire Towers. Just as Isaiah prophesied.
- dd (5/9/2017 5:05:09 PM)

#14 Comment on Song of Songs 3:10
As lovers in union with our Beloved Christ, who are seated with Him on the cushion of purple for the move of His bridal procession, we share His authority in two ways:
1) The position of authority – every believer of Jesus Christ has the privileged status of being seated and enthroned with Him (Eph. 2:6); this is a gift upon believing
2) The experience of authority – only the believers who live a faithful and victorious life will be approved to sit with Him upon His throne and rule in the coming kingdom (Rev. 3:21; Luke 19:11-27); this is a reward for overcoming

- Frank Pytel, "The Two Become One" (5/24/2017 12:08:27 PM)

#15 Comment on Ephesians 1:4
καταβολη [casting/throwing-down] ought not be translated as the English "foundation". see also Hebrews 6:1, where καταβολη and θεμελιος ["theme", often also translated as "foundation"] appear together.
CLT/CLV was early reveal this.
- marshall (1/26/2017 7:04:00 PM)

#16 Comment on Ephesians 4:11
Trinity is not found in scripture. It comes from man. Pagan man at that. "Let Yahweh be true, and every man a liar"!!

https://www.ucg.org/bible-study-tools/booklets/is-god-a-trinity/the-surprising-origins-of-the-trinity-doctrine
- Servant (5/7/2017 10:44:01 AM) [qBible.com]

#17 Comment on Acts 8:20
It was the gift of the holy spirit. See verses 18 & 19. Ask yourself what the gift of holy spirit was. Used for. Go back to Acts 2:4 First Holy Spirit was given them to preach about the magnificent things of God to other language groups. They were able to speak in their language so they could understand their message. Other gifts of the holy spirit that was used was healing. So then why did Simon in verse 18 really want the gift of holy spirit that he was willing to pay for it?





- Margot (2/28/2017 12:20:18 AM)

#18 Comment on Psalms 119:103
His words on my palette are smooth, bringing pleasure, as they go out of my mouth.
- ecorbin (5/21/2017 2:27:38 AM)

#19 Comment on Isaiah 30:17
25 And there shall be upon every high mountain, and upon every high hill, rivers and streams of waters in the day of the great slaughter, when the towers fall.3 Therefore this iniquity shall be to you as a breach ready to fall, swelling out in a high wall, whose breaking cometh suddenly at an instant.

14 And he shall break it as the breaking of the potters' vessel that is broken in pieces; he shall not spare: so that there shall not be found in the bursting of it a sherd to take fire from the hearth, or to take water withal out of the pit. http://the911forum You didn’t find a shard of glass– anything that looked like it would be used by a person, you just didn’t see it. It was just concrete, steel, that was it– and dust. FDNY Engine 285 firefighter in “Collateral Damages” (2006, Turn of the Century Pictures, Inc.)

I never saw a file cabinet, never saw a desk, a chair, never saw a telephone, never saw any type of office furniture. There is no glass. It just disappeared and has become part of this fluffy white or gray dust.You have two 110-story office buildings. You don’t find a desk. You don’t find a chair. You don’t find a telephone, a computer. The biggest piece of a telephone I found was half of the keypad, and it was about this big. The building collapsed to dust. How are we supposed to find anybody in this that there’s nothing left of the building?
- dd (5/19/2017 5:34:57 PM)

#20 Comment on Isaiah 40:31
The eagle. The bird that flies the highest, yet hardly flaps it's wings. It uses (as known in the paragliding world) thermals... Unseen rising air to reach those high places.
- Mark Smit (8/12/2016 10:12:17 AM) [qBible.com]

#21 Comment on Acts 4:34
And great grace was upon them "For" "gar" neither was there among them anyone that lacked
- Stan (12/8/2016 1:24:03 PM) [qBible.com]

#22 Comment on Psalms 104:2
Yo, wazzup
- al-Bagh Daddy #ISIS 1 (7/3/2016 3:34:35 PM)

#23 Comment on Matthew 28:19
The Trinitarian formula is being found in most old manuscripts, namely: Latin Vulgate, Peshita, Codex Sinaiticus, Alexandrinus, Codex Bezae Cantabrigiensis. The best tool I found in the internet sto see it with one glance is: https://greeknewtestament.net/mt28-19
The second more explicit tool is: http://textus-receptus.com/wiki/Matthew_28:19 The second formula in the New Testament we have in: "(Textus Receptus, Novum Testamentum, Theodore Beza, 4th folio edition. Geneva. 1598): 2 Corinthians 13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen." - This is supported by: The complete Latin Vulgate as written by St. Jeromes, The Douay-Rheims English translation in parallel w/ original commentary. The entire King James Version in parallel for an alternative semantic translation: http://www.latinvulgate.com/lv/verse.aspx?t=1&b=8&c=13 - Now the third hottest descated Trinitarian formula is the Comma Johanneum, of which I cam to the conclustion, that it is of very early origin and much more well supported than admitted! This verse has for some reason been deleted from most modern Bibles, despite there is no difference between the formula found in the great commission and in the benediction of 2 Corinthians. Those texts have been retained for other reasons, since they are part of a sacrament (baptism) and one of two benedictions given in most churches at the end of services, the second being the Aronitic blessing: "24 The Lord bless you and keep you: 25 The Lord make his face to shine upon you, and be gracious to you: 26 The Lord lift up his countenance upon you, and give you peace. (Numbers 6) My feeling is, there was just no ned for such a formula in 1. John 5:7, making it three formulas for the Trinity, which would make senses. I had already given up on the subject, when I found these new tools in the internet, where you can see at once glance, that this passage actually is well supported and has been debated, after it already had been accepted by Luther, the Roman Catholic Church and the Anglican Church as part of the New Testament! So, it is rather by "enlightened theologians" who were against this passage and after many long debates, it has been now deleted from most of our Bibles! Text: "And there are Three who give testimony in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost. And these three are one." - and Latin Version: "quia tres sunt qui testimonium dant in caelo, Pater, Verbum, et Spiritus Sanctus. Et hi tres unum sunt" (Latin Vulgate as written by St. Jeromes) Argument for the inclusiond: "It stood basically unchallenged in English Bibles for four hundred years. It is the English ecclesiastical line for the past 500 years with first English Bible of John Wycliffe in 1380, William Tyndale’s New Testament of 1525, Coverdale’s Bible of 1535, in Matthew’s Bible of 1537, the Taverner’s Bible of 1539, the Great Bible of 1539, the Geneva New Testament of 1557, the Bishop’s Bible of 1568, and the King James Version of 1611. Trinitarianism is an orthodox position, and those who attack trinitarianism have rejected this verse. The fact that the very best of English translators, as well as many preachers, theologians, church leaders, editors, and the highest levels of scholarship have accepted the verse as well as many learned men who today still accept the Trinitarian statement in 1 John 5:7 needs to be acknowledged. Five centuries of English Christians acceptation of a verse that does not cause one to err or be deceived but rather enhances the doctrine of the trinity, should not quickly be rejected; let alone the many other language groups that have the verse, the huge amount of Old Latin and Vulgate manuscripts containing it, and its mention by early church witnesses. In the seventeenth century the framers of the Westminster Confession of Faith accepted the inclusion of 1 John 5.7–8 and used it to defend the doctrine of the Trinity." The Council of Catarge states: "Church Council of Carthage (485 A.D.) Eugenius was the spokesman for the bishops of Africa, Mauritania, Sardinia, Corsica and the Balearick Isles, these bishops numbered in the 300’s that stood in defense of the Trinity and used 1 John 5:7-8. Arians didn't believe in the deity of Jesus Christ. The bishops used 1 John 5:7-8 against the Arians proving Jesus is God and God is a Trinity. ‘Victor of Vitensis, Historia persecutionis Africanae’ His words are recorded, : ‘…and in order that we may teach until now, more clearly than light, that the Holy Spirit is now one divinity with the Father and the Son. It is proved by the evangelist John, for he says, ‘there are three which bear testimony in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one’." - Even earlier mentions are: " Athanasius (c. 296 – 373 AD) or Pseudo-Athanasius (c. 350 - c. 600 AD). Athanasius quoted the Comma in Disputatio Contra Arium:
"Τί δὲ καὶ τὸ τῆς ἀφέσεως τῶν ἁμαρτιῶν παρεκτικὸν, καὶ ζωοποιὸν, καὶ ἁγιαστικὸν λουτρὸν, οὗ χωρὶς οὐδεὶς ὄψεται τὴν βασιλείαν τῶν οὐρανῶν, οὐκ ἐν τῇ τρισμακαρίᾳ ὀνομασίᾳ δίδοται τοῖς πιστοῖς; Πρὸς δὲ τούτοις πᾶσιν 'Ἰωάννης φάσκει· Καὶ οἱ τρεῖς τὸ ἕν εἰσιν."
"But also, is not that sin-remitting, life-giving and sanctifying washing [baptism], without which, no one shall see the kingdom of heaven, given to the faithful in the Thrice-Blessed Name? In addition to all these, 'John affirms, and these three are one.'" (350 AD) - John Calvin on the Comma said: "However, the passage flows better when this clause is added, and as I see that it is found in the best and most approved copies, I am inclined to receive it as the true reading." "There are three that bear record in heaven"
...And the meaning would be, that God, in order to confirm most abundantly our faith in Christ, testifies in three ways that we ought to acquiesce in him. For as our faith acknowledges three persons in the one divine essence, so it is called in so really ways to Christ that it may rest on him.
When he says, These three are one, he refers not to essence, but on the contrary to consent; as though he had said that the Father and his eternal Word and Spirit harmoniously testify the same thing respecting Christ. Hence some copies have εἰς ἓν, "for one." But though you read ἓν εἰσιν, as in other copies, yet there is no doubt but that the Father, the Word and the Spirit are said to be one, in the same sense in which afterwards the blood and the water and the Spirit are said to agree in one." John Calvin, Commentaries on the catholic epistles, tr. and ed. by John Owen, 1855, p. 258. - Matthew Henry
"We are stopped in our course by the contest there is about the genuineness of v. 7. It is alleged that many old Greek manuscripts have it not. It should seem that the critics are not agreed what manuscripts have it and what not; nor do they sufficiently inform us of the integrity and value of the manuscripts they peruse...There are some rational surmises that seem to support the present text and reading."
"The seventh verse is very agreeable to the style and the theology of our apostle...Facundus acknowledges that Cyprian says that of his three it is written, Et hi tres unum sunt—and these three are one. NOW THESE ARE THE WORDS, NOT OF V. 8, BUT OF V. 7. They are not used concerning the three on earth, the Spirit, the water, and the blood; but the three in heaven, the Father, and the Word, and the Holy Ghost...If all the Greek manuscripts and ancient versions say concerning the Spirit, the water, and the blood, that in unum sunt—they agree in one, then it was not of them that Cyprian spoke, whatever variety there might be in the copies in his time, when he said it is written, unum sunt—they are one. And therefore Cyprian's words seem still to be a firm testimony to V. 7." http://textus-receptus.com/wiki/1_John_5:7
- Christof Bucherer M.Div. (4/29/2017 10:58:52 AM)

#24 Comment on Ephesians 1:13
Where is the Weymouth translation? That translation picks up the fact that Paul is now talking to the Gentile believers, As opposed to the Saints, ( Holy ones or separated ones or the Jews) In the first 12 verses Paul speaks of us and we meaning the Jews of which he is one. In verse 13 he speaks to "you also", meaning the Gentiles.
- Norman Nelson (6/23/2016 1:46:40 PM) [qBible.com]

#25 Comment on Romans 1:30
It is interesting to note that the book of Romans is addressed in verse 7, "To all in Rome who are loved by God and called to be his holy people." This indicates that he is addressing adults as well as children, but primarily adults. So when Paul ends the list of despicable traits displayed by "those who suppress the truth" (v. 18), with "disobedient to parents," (v.30) he is addressing a mostly adult audience. Therefore it is not just for children under 18 years of age to obey, in some translations "yield to" and "respect," their parents. It is for everyone at every age to obey, yield to and respect their parents. This is supported in the teaching of Jesus in Mark 7:9-13. Maybe it is even more important for adults to honor their parents, than children. Children are by nature imitators. Food for thought: if you want your children to honor you as a parent, do they have a good example to follow by watching you honor your parents?
- Jane Marie (8/9/2016 11:42:54 AM)

#26 Comment on 1 Timothy 6:9
I Timothy 6:9
yet-of those resolving to be-filled/wealthy, they are falling-in on-to testing and-also a trap, to many foolish impulses and-also injuries that are submerging/swamping the humans on-to ruin and [eventual] extermination.
- marshall (1/25/2017 9:07:09 AM)

#27 Comment on Zechariah 13:7
I will turnºº mine handº uponº the little ones.ºº - what does this mean Can anybody clarify me
- dON kINGSLY (5/25/2017 3:25:28 PM) [qBible.com]

#28 Comment on 1 Kings 13:23
are you lieing to god when two people get a divorce
- hiiiiii (2/17/2017 9:21:31 PM)

#29 Comment on Zechariah 13:9
smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones. two thirds are cut off and die :but the little ones one third he will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It [is] my people: and they shall say, The LORD [is] my God.
- dd (5/25/2017 9:14:56 PM)

#30 Comment on 1 Kings 16:34
Bethelite -Inhabitant of bethel-(House of God )
- Amy hema (1/11/2016 3:41:29 AM)

#31 Comment on Zechariah 14:2
Zechariah 8The Restoration of JerusalemI lifted up my eyes again, and looked, and behold a man with a measuring line in his hand. 2Then said I, Where go you? And he said to me, To measure Jerusalem, to see what is the breadth thereof, and what is the length thereof. Run, speak to this young man, saying, Jerusalem shall be inhabited as towns without walls for the multitude of men and cattle therein: 5For I, said the LORD, will be to her a wall of fire round about, and will be the glory in the middle of her.Sing and rejoice, O daughter of Zion: for, see, I come, and I will dwell in the middle of you, said the LORD. 11And many nations shall be joined to the LORD in that day, and shall be my people: and I will dwell in the middle of you, and you shall know that the LORD of hosts has sent me to you. 12And the LORD shall inherit Judah his portion in the holy land, and shall choose Jerusalem again.kind david ruling at jersalem book 2 samual God tells david isreal going to another land.Moreover I will appoint a place for my people Israel, and will plant them, that they may dwell in a place of their own, and move no more; neither shall the children of wickedness afflict them any more, as beforetime.Prophecy against Gog. there coming my people.After many days you shall be visited: in the latter years you shall come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them. 9You shall ascend and come like a storm, you shall be like a cloud to cover the land, you, and all your bands, and many people with you.And you shall say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates, 12To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn your hand on the desolate places that are now inhabited, and on the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the middle of the land.And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, said the Lord GOD: every man's sword shall be against his brother. gog is in your goverment civil war is coming. I will bring you against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in you, O Gog, before their eyes.heathen is the godless in the usa.For Tophet is ordained of old; yes, for the king it is prepared; he has made it deep and large: the pile thereof is fire and much wood; the breath of the LORD, like a stream of brimstone, does kindle it.in the day of the great slaughter, when the towers fall. 8Now go, write it before them in a table, and note it in a book, that it may be for the time to come for ever and ever:

9That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD:

10Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not to us right things, speak to us smooth things, prophesy deceits:

11Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us.Why thus said the Holy One of Israel, Because you despise this word, and trust in oppression and perverseness, and stay thereon:

13Therefore this iniquity shall be to you as a breach ready to fall, swelling out in a high wall, whose breaking comes suddenly at an instant.

14And he shall break it as the breaking of the potters' vessel that is broken in pieces; he shall not spare: so that there shall not be found in the bursting of it a shard to take fire from the hearth, or to take water with out of the pit.
- dd (10/13/2016 10:32:03 AM)

#32 Comment on 1 John 5:7
The Trinitarian formula for this passage is first being found in Tertullian (155 - 245). He makes a reference to the comma around 200 ad: "ita connexus patris in filio et filii in paracleto, tres efficit coharentes, alterum ex altere, qui tres unum sunt, non unus, quomodo dictum est, ego et pater unum sumus." (against praxeas xxv). "thus the connection of the father in the son, and of the son in the paraclete, produces three coherent persons, one from the other, which three are one, not one [person], as it is said, "i and my father are one."" The Latin church father Cyprian (210 - 258) makes reference to the Comma in Ante-Nicene Fathers, Vol. 5, Treatise 1, paragraph 6. Here is the full quotation:
The spouse of Christ cannot be adulterous; she is uncorrupted and pure. She knows one home; she guards with chaste modesty the sanctity of one couch. She keeps us for God. She appoints the sons whom she has born for the kingdom. Whoever is separated from the Church and is joined to an adulteress, is separated from the promises of the Church; nor can he who forsakes the Church of Christ attain to the rewards of Christ. He is a stranger; he is profane; he is an enemy. He can no longer have God for his Father, who has not the Church for his mother. If any one could escape who was outside the ark of Noah, then he also may escape who shall be outside of the Church. The Lord warns, saying, "He who is not with me is against me, and he who gathereth not with me scattereth." He who breaks the peace and the concord of Christ, does so in opposition to Christ; he who gathereth elsewhere than in the Church, scatters the Church of Christ. The Lord says, "I and the Father are one;" and again it is written of the Father and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, "And these three are one." And does any one believe that this unity which thus comes from the divine strength and coherence in celestial sacraments, can be divided in the Church, and can be separated by the parting asunder of opposing wills? He who does not hold this unity does not hold God's law, does not hold the faith of the Father and the Son, does not hold life and salvation. “Dicit Dominus, ‘Ego et Pater unum sumus,’ et iterum de Patre et Filio et Spiritu sancto scriptum est: ‘Et tres unum sunt.’” - “The Lord says, ‘I and the Father are one,” and again, it is written of the Father and Son and Holy Spirit, ‘And these three are one.’” ‘De Unitate Ecclesiae, (On the Unity of the Church)
Notice that Cyprian firstly said “The Lord says, ‘I and the Father are one,” and again.... obviously making the claim that the bible verse quoted again had as much weight as the first quotation. Secondly, confirms that it is scripture by saying "it is written". The obvious conclusion is that Cyprian is quoting from scripture and believes the Comma to have the same authority as John's earlier quotation in his gospel.
Scrivener stated: “surely safer and more candid to admit that Cyprian read verse 7 in his copies, than to resort to the explanation of Facundus that the holy bishop was merely putting upon verse 8 a spiritual meaning.”
Arthur Cleveland Coxe referenced Scrivener …“it is surely safer and more candid to admit that Cyprian read it in his copies, than to resort to, etc., the usual explainings away.” Ad Jubaianum (Epistle 73)
The second, lesser reference from Cyprian that has been involved in the verse debate is from Ad Jubaianum 23.12. Cyprian while discussing baptism writes: If he obtained the remission of sins, he was sanctified, and if he was sanctified, he was made the temple of God. But of what God? I ask. The Creator?, Impossible; he did not believe in him. Christ? But he could not be made Christ's temple, for he denied the deity of Christ. The Holy Spirit? Since the Three are One, what pleasure could the Holy Spirit take in the enemy of the Father and the Son?
Including the text are are the: Codex Alexandrinus (A02) (5th century), Codex Ephraemi Syri Rescriptus (C) (5th century), Codex Claromontanus (D) (5th century), The complete Latin Vulgate as written by St. Jeromes, The Douay-Rheims English translation, in many early English translations and the translations of other languages, in most Textus Receptus editions, have: “ὅτι τρεῖς εἰσιν οἱ μαρτυροῦντες εν τῷ οὐρανῷ, ὁ πατήρ, ὁ λόγος, καὶ τὸ Ἅγιον Πνεῦμα· καὶ οὗτοι οἱ τρεῖς ἕν εἰσιν”.
This passage is confirmed by the two other formulas in Matt. 28:18 and 2. Cor. 13:14, which is on similar solid ground, much more than the whole of John’s Gospel for instance! It is not clear why to retain the Mattew Gospel text and Corinthian text in the Bible and cut out 1. John 5:7! Only because the former are still in use in the churches for the ceremony of “mostly chidrens” baptism (one of the seven sacraments in the Roman Church) and the blessing after the service (which is common practice in almost all traditional churches, catholic, eastern or protestant), besides this basically Trinitarian formula in the Old Testament all the churches use:
1. The Lord bless thee, and keep thee. (Yahweh Elohim, the Father – “bless+ keep” = “life giver”)
2. The Lord shew his face to thee, and have mercy on thee. (Jesus Christ, the Son - “face” + “mercy” = “salvation”)
3. The Lord turn his countenance to thee, and give thee peace. (the Holy Spirit – “countenance” + “peace” = “comforter”) Numbers 6:24-26
- Which is an Old Testament proof text for the Trinity, as much as in the final blessing of Pauls in 1. Cor. 5:23 “Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you completely, and may your entire spirit, soul, and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.“ (notice that 1. spirit, 2. soul, and 3. body correspond in this rather unnoticed blessing to 1. God (which is the life giving spirit), 2. The sanctifying (Spirit, which lifts up our soul) and the 3. The Lord Jesus Christ (who was made flesh).
Matthew Henry comments in his Shorter Commentary: "To the doctrine taught by the apostles (note the doctrine was taught by Jesus and them already), respecting the person and salvation of Christ, there were three testimonies.
1. The Holy Spirit. We come into the world with a corrupt, carnal disposition, which is enmity to God. This being done away by the regeneration and new-creating of souls by the Holy Spirit, is a testimony to the Saviour. (John 3:3)
2. The water: this sets forth the Saviour's purity and purifying power. The actual and active purity and holiness of his disciples are represented by baptism. (Rom 6:3)
3. The blood which he shed: and this was our ransom, this testifies for Jesus Christ; it sealed up and finished the sacrifices of the Old Testament. The benefits procured by his blood, prove that he is the Saviour of the world. No wonder if he that rejects this evidence is judged a blasphemer of the Spirit of God. These three witnesses are for one and the same purpose; they agree in one and the same thing." http://biblehub.com/commentaries/1_john/5-6.htm
The Matthews Gospel and the Corinthian texts have been readily accepted by the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Anglican, and Lutheran and as part of the New Testament! Free Churches have newly accepted it in their own tranlations like the Schlachter 2000. So, it is rather by "enlightened theologians" who were against this passage and after many long debates, it has been now deleted from most of our Bibles! Trinitarianism is an orthodox position, and those who attack trinitarianism have rejected this verse.
Argument for the inclusion: "It stood basically unchallenged in English Bibles for four hundred years. It is the English ecclesiastical line for the past 500 years with first English Bible of John Wycliffe in 1380, William Tyndale’s New Testament of 1525, Coverdale’s Bible of 1535, in Matthew’s Bible of 1537, the Taverner’s Bible of 1539, the Great Bible of 1539, the Geneva New Testament of 1557, the Bishop’s Bible of 1568, and the King James Version of 1611.
Facundus acknowledges that Cyprian says that of his three it is written, Et hi tres unum sunt - and these three are one. They are not used concerning the three on earth, the Spirit, the water, and the blood; but “the three in heaven, the Father, and the Word, and the Holy Ghost”...If all the Greek manuscripts and ancient versions say concerning the Spirit, the water, and the blood, that in unum sunt - they agree in one, then it was not of them that Cyprian spoke, whatever variety there might be in the copies in his time, when he said it is written, unum sunt - they are one. And therefore Cyprian's words seem still to be a firm testimony to V. 7 to include “in heaven: the Father, the Son and Holy Spirit and on earth, the spirit and the water and the blood. And these three are one." http://textus-receptus.com/wiki/1_John_5:7
Theodorus, in the 4th century wirtes ‘…that John in his Epistle, presents God as a Trinity…’, Priscillian
In 380 AD in Spain “There are three that bear witness on earth: the water, in the flesh, and the blood: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Spirit, and these three are one in Christ Jesus.” [Corpus Scriptorum Ecclesiasticorum Latinorum, Academia Litterarum Vindobonensis, vol. xviii, p. 6.]
Eucherius of Lyons (434 A.D.) in a tract that is titled ‘Formulae Spiritualis Intelligentiae’, verses 7 & 8 are quoted. Contra Varimadum Arianum (in the late 300’s or late 400’s) has the following statement:“John the Evangelist, in his Epistle to the Parthians (i.e. 1 John), says there are three who afford testimony on earth: the water, the blood, and the flesh, and these three are in us; and there are three who afford testimony in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Spirit, and these three are one.”
Vigilius Tapensis (484 A.D.) in his writings on the Trinity, quotes 1 John 5:7 in its entirety. This is found in his ‘Works of Athanasius’ and also in his tract against Varimadus the Arian under the name of Idacius Clarus.
Church Council of Carthage (485 A.D.) Eugenius was the spokesman for the bishops of Africa, Mauritania, Sardinia, Corsica and the Balearick Isles, these bishops numbered in the 300’s that stood in defense of the Trinity and used 1 John 5:7-8.
The North African Victor Vitensis attended the Council of Carthage in 484, after the Arian Vandal king Huneric had instructed the Trinitarian bishops of North Africa to meet there with Arian bishops to discuss the subject of the Trinity.
100 Trinitarian African bishops attended, led by Eugene of Carthage who intended to present a statement of faith at the council, and this manifesto was incorporated into Victor Vitensis’ account. It speaks of the Comma:“And as a shining light teaching the unity of the divinity of the Father and Son and Holy Spirit, the testimony of John the Evangelist demonstratively testifies: ‘There are three who bear witness in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one.’”
Jerome (382 A.D.) in his book, ‘Prologue to the Canonical Epistles’, quotes the following when discussing the Johannine Comma that,…irresponsible translators left out this testimony in the Greek codices.’ ...Waldensians 157-1400 AD Waldensian (that is, Vaudois) Bibles have the verse.
Pre Wycliffe: Adam Clarke claimed to possess an Earlier English version of the bible than Wycliff that said: For three ben that geven witnessing in heven the Fadir, the Word or Sone and the Hooly Goost, and these three ben oon. And three ben that geven witnessing in erthe, the Spirit, Water, and Blood, and these three ben oon.
He said: ...both these readings are united in an ancient English manuscript of my own, which contains the Bible from the beginning of Proverbs to the end of the New Testament, written on thick strong vellum, and evidently prior to most of those copies attributed to John Wycliff. See Also Adam Clarke on the Johanneum Comma! Wycliffe here reads “son” instead of “word.”
John Wesley writes: "I would insist only on the direct words, unexplained, just as they lie in the text: "There are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: And these three are one." "As they lie in the text :" -- but here arises a question: Is that text genuine? Was it originally written by the Apostle, or inserted in later ages? Many have doubted of this; and, in particular, the great light of the Christian church, lately removed to the Church above.
Bengelius, -- the most pious, the most judicious, and the most laborious, of all the modern Commentators on the New Testament. For some
1. That though it is wanting in many copies, yet it is found in more; and those copies of the greatest authority!
2. That it is cited by a whole gain of ancient writers, from the time of St. John to that of Constantine. This argument is conclusive: For they could not have cited it, had it not been in the sacred canon!
3. That we can easily account for its being, after that time, wanting in many copies, when we remember that Constantine's successor was a zealous Arian, who used every means to promote his bad cause, to spread Arianism throughout the empire; in particular the erasing this text out of as many copies as fell into his hands. And he so far prevailed, that the age in which he lived is commonly styled, Seculum Aranium, -- "the Arian age;" there being then only one eminent man who opposed him at the peril of his life. So that it was a proverb, Athanasius contra mundum: "Athanasius against the world.""
Darby made several notes about the Comma in Darby's annotations on Diatribe In Locum 1 Joann v. 7, 8.
Modern American Opinion and the internet:
It is rather amazing to watch modern bible critics such as “Dr.” James White, MA, Prof Dr Bart D. Ehrman (Barth Ehrman can easily be refuted, as he does not believe in the resurrection of Jesus Christ nor that there even exists a God or a Holy Spirit. He mocks Jesus in his YouTube videos as “man made” and reflects on whether he can still be a Christian, if he keeps some of his ethics. He now publically begs for money to discuss theological issues with him, abasing himself as all the rest of the tele-evangelists we have today, claiming, the money is for a good purpose! Jesus has said, that “you have made my house a house of money changers! Dan Wallace and others, claim that the Comma simply originated from Erasmus (not having read the Vulgata and the early church fathers). Victor Vitensis reveals that a prominent bishop was willing to use the Comma at a "theological conference" (see his book) defending the Trinity ("Historia persecutionis Africanae Provinciae, temporibus Geiserici et Hunirici regum Wandalorum". This is mainly a contemporary narrative of the cruelties practised against the orthodox Christians of Northern Africa by the Arian Vandals. around 430 AD). James White said in 2006: “...anyone who defends the insertion of the Comma is, to me, outside the realm of meaningful scholarship. James White is no authority on theology. (!!!) Check in Wikipedia! He holds only an MA from Fuller Theological Seminary. White then got titles like ThM, DMin, and ThD from the unaccredited correspondence school Columbia Evangelical Seminary (formerly Faraston Seminary”- called: “diploa mill” The School has only candidate status now with the Association of Biblical Higher Education, which is itself is not accredited by any state or the US Department of Education, like TRACS.org is (the only biblical accrediting US recognized body in all USA and the world)! All fake, I call it! He is a faculty mentor of the same Columbia Evangelical Seminary, mainly by internet! – all discussion about his titles has been erased on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_White_(theologian) (Deletion Discussion: James White Has Completely Lost It by Jimmy Akin in Non-Catholic Apologists And by "it," I mean two things: First, his mind, and second, the debate. The reason I say that is that White has now posted pictures depicting those who have urged him to be more charitable with Frank Beckwith as radical Muslims protesting and urging beheading. Here are the pictures. To the first he gave the name "RCfatwa" (i.e., Roman Catholic fatwa): This is a rather convenient way to “win” a debate without ever having to defend a word you say. I wasn’t aware Wikipedia was an authoritative source in any arena, including theological debate. I suppose I should brush up on my regulations though, that or Mr. Akin should deal with the issues.”), since I last visited his entry, where he debated on Wikipedia with a Mormon about him rightfully naming himself as a ThD!). In one CV I read, that he did not even do undergraduate studies in theology! His criticism has been deleted in Wikipedia probably due to intervention by White himself! “James White has Completely Lost It” by Jimmy Akin in Non-Catholic Apologists; And by "it," I mean two things: First, his mind, and second, the debate. The reason I say that is that White has now posted pictures depicting those who have urged him to be more charitable with Frank Beckwith as radical Muslims protesting and urging beheading. Here are the pictures. To the first he gave the name "RCfatwa" (i.e., Roman Catholic fatwa) An other site exposes James White and his motives to change the Bible: Beware Of James White's False Teachings. by David J. Stewart | May 2015 Deuteronomy 4:2, “Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.” Unfortunately, James White is a big opponent (enemy) of King James Onlyism. White endorses using the modern corrupt Bible versions (although he admits he doesn't support all of them). Nevertheless, James White is bad news for promoting counterfeit Bible versions (there are some YouTube videos of White debating the issue if you'd like to watch them). I've noticed that nearly all the apostate religious leaders who support the new Satanic counterfeit Bible versions also teach the heresy of Lordship Salvation. It makes sense, because it's the new corrupted Bible versions which promote a false understanding of what it Biblically means to “repent.” Instead of “a change of mind” (which is Biblical), the new perversions redefine repentance to mean “a change of lifestyle.” This is human effort and a form of works salvation. Biblical salvation is a free gift, without works of self-righteousness, and is not a form of probation requiring our good behaviour. The person who BELIEVES the Gospel has eternal life, which can never be forfeited or lost. http://www.jesusisprecious.org/wolves/james_white.htm
Wallace on White: “Classic White. “Most of this book comes straight from his formal debates. White assumes that "ancient and constant faith of the Church" (from Vatican I definition) means;
A. “every Church Father must interpret Matthew 16 to apply to Peter alone as rock [the Catechism of the Catholic Church doesn't even do that], and to his successors as bishops of Rome.
B. there cannot be any doctrinal development…” - it was all dealt with in better arguments from the Anglicans of 100 years ago!
Most of his objections are wrong or answerable.”
But Wallace too writes nonsense, He write about the Comma: "This longer reading is found only in eight late manuscripts, four of which have the words in a marginal note. Most of these manuscripts (2318, 221, and [with minor variations] 61, 88, 429, 629, 636, and 918) originate from the 16th century; the earliest manuscript, codex 221 (10th century), includes the reading in a marginal note which was added sometime after the original composition.”
So, what!? How well supported is Johns Gospel, 2 Cor. 13:14 and Matt. 28:19!?
“Thus, there is no sure evidence of this reading in any Greek manuscript until the 1500s; each such reading was apparently composed after Erasmus’ Greek NT was published in 1516. Indeed, the reading appears in no Greek witness of any kind (either manuscript, patristic, or Greek translation of some other version) until AD 1215 (in a Greek translation of the Acts of the Lateran Council, a work originally written in Latin). This is all the more significant, since many a Greek Father would have loved such a reading, for it so succinctly affirms the doctrine of the Trinity.
2 The reading seems to have arisen in a fourth century Latin homily in which the text was allegorized to refer to members of the Trinity. From there, it made its way into copies of the Latin Vulgate, the text used by the Roman Catholic Church. The Trinitarian formula (known as the Comma Johanneum) made its way into the third edition of Erasmus’ Greek NT (1522) because of pressure from the Catholic Church. After his first edition appeared (1516), there arose such a furor over the absence of the Comma that Erasmus needed to defend himself. He argued that he did not put in the Comma because he found no Greek manuscripts that included it. Once one was produced (codex 61, written by one Roy or Froy at Oxford in c. 1520),
3 Erasmus apparently felt obliged to include the reading. He became aware of this manuscript sometime between May of 1520 and September of 1521. In his annotations to his third edition he does not protest the rendering now in his text,
4 as though it were made to order; but he does defend himself from the charge of indolence, noting that he had taken care to find whatever manuscripts he could for the production of his Greek New Testament. In the final analysis, Erasmus probably altered the text because of politico-theologico-economic concerns: he did not want his reputation ruined, nor his Novum Instrumentum to go unsold." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_B._Wallace
I totally disagree with Wallace on the basis of evidence for early manuscripts and church father as far back as 200 AD teaching the Trinity found in 1 John 5;7 as taught by the Apostles!
http://textus-receptus.com/wiki/1_Peter_5:7
https://greeknewtestament.net/jn5-7
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10208604720655612&id=1237427231 (Bilder zu frühen Handschriften aus dem 4 Jahrhundert voll im Text integriert! Dia-Schau der katholischen Kirche, wie sie den Text aus der Bibel filterten: https://www.slideshare.net/ronwinston/comma-johanneum
http://www.latinvulgate.com/lv/verse.aspx?t=1&b=23&c=5
http://buchererpianos.ch/Trinitaetslehre.html
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10208619588307294&id=1237427231


- Christof Bucherer M.Div. (4/30/2017 1:38:12 AM)

#33 Comment on Colossians 1:15
First born means the primary of those born, not the initial. Those born does not mean those created. She who is born carries with her essence of the one who bears her. He being created is made out of ingredients and the substance is there but not the essence. Khavvah was first named ishah because she came out of ish. The man is named red clay.

Before that was the Son. He is hayah as light (John 1) by YHWH who is hayahed all by self.

These are the first things we are told in the book that is not biology or physics but does not confuse biology and physics.

Who has seen the One born has seen the One bearing. Look at the primary One, then, later, you can see "the image" in the lesser born.
- Rick (7/9/2016 8:17:19 AM)

#34 Comment on Daniel 4:12
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- klodian (2/24/2017 9:08:26 AM)

#35 Comment on Genesis 2:4
This is the second account (a shift taking place as from this verse onwards, what style and name of God is concerned) of the creation of the heavens and the earths (for plural of "earths", see Hebr. 1:2; 11:3 - universe (ῶνος, ὁ - ho aionos). Instead of Elohim it is Yahweh Elohim who here is the creator (compare also with John 1:3, where the Word is the creator and the repetition of heavens and the earth and the earth and the heavens is also being used: "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made."

Genesis 1 is written in Hebrew poetry form, like Psalm 90, which was written by Moses too: v. 4 "For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night." We also find also almost the same sentence in 2. Peter 3:8 "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that “one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day”." Genesis 2:4 and the following texts are written in prose.

In ch. 4:1 it is Yahweh, in v. 25 and Elohim (Masoretic pronunciation) and in v. 26 Yahweh, being mentioned by Moses, where mankind started to worship the LORD. - According to Ex. 6:3: "And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty (El Shaddai), but by my name YEHOVAH (LORD/YHWH) was I not known to them." God had only revealed himself to Moses in Ex. 3:14 as the I AM (hayah aher hayah - אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה - "who is, who was and is to come” – Rev. 1+22- ), like Jesus in John 8:58 (before Abraham was I AM (Gr. [ego eimi])! "Elohim" is being used for the masculine and feminine form, but the Septuaginth and the Greek New Testament simply translates Elohim as Gr. "theos" and Yaweh as "kyrios"/ LORD. Sample: Hebr. 9b+10:a: “therefore God (theos=Elohim), even thy God (theos=Elohim), hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. 10 And, Thou, Lord (kyrios=Yahweh), in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth“ (Psalm 45:7/102:24) – „I said, O my God (El), take me not away in the midst of my days: thy years are throughout all generations. 25 Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.

Note: various authors of the Old Testament take the plural form lightly by using Elohim as El and Yahweh as Yah!

When we say LORD Jesus Christ, we actually say: Yahweh Yeshuah ha Meshiah! In Paleo-Hebrew there are no vowels and except for the [y] all the vowels are pronounced as [a]. Thus LORD YHWH becomes Yahuah and and Jesus becomes Yahushah (W pronounce as u, “sh” as [sch]). http://christianitybeliefs.org/the-falling-away/the-names-of-the-father-and-the-son (http://buchererpianos.ch/TRANSLETTERING-YHWH-and-Jesus.jpg - from: http://www.fossilizedcustoms.com/hebrew.html).

Jesus, the Apostles, the early church fathers, as well as the Rabbinical Jews all ascribe the Genesis reports as having been written by Moses.

Nowhere does Jesus talk about a Six-Day-Creation! So, by this, we may safely say, that the Six-Day-Creation only has been reported in the Bible once, but never again! So, insisting on a literal interpretation of “six days” does no justice to the second account found in Genesis 2:4 in this verse. The six days though were relevant to the six days of work and the seventh day of rest, as written in the Ten Commandements (Ex. 20:8). This verse in Gen. 2:4 just leaves it open as to the time period of the creation like it is said of the creation in Psalms 145-149!

According to the Wellhausen "documentary hypothesis" it was the Jahwehist- (J) in Gen. 1 and the Elohist (E) “redactor” in Gen. 2:4 having composed both, the poem and the prose account. I do not bother about this, since these are all only theories, and the whole Bible gives no further explanation as to the style or the time frame or mentions any othe author than Moses!

In Hebrews 1:2 and 11:3, in both instances, we have the plural form for the universe (ῶνος, ὁ - ho aionos)! As most Bibles translate the Hebrew word "ha shamaim" with heavens, we also get a clearer picture by the New Testament, about the earth(s)! As Jesus and the authors of the New Testament were strongly hellenistic since the Persian times of Cyrus and later Alexander the Great, everywhere in the Roman Empire Geek was the common language (Koine Greek). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_the_Roman_Empire.

So, we have the plural form of both the heavens and the earths and Elohim also is the plural form of God! When the Bible referres to the elohim, the asterim, which God hated, the word elohim equally is being used. Exodus 6:3 then give us a clue, that God wanted to be called by his real name: "YHWH”. Translated into Greek thinking that would mean, that Jesus likes to be called “Lord Jesus Christ”. Jesus, in the Lord’s prayer also taught us to address God as Father (dad), or “daddy”, Hebr. [avi].
We always want to be respectful to God, and therefore tend to address him as “Father”, but in fact, we are allowed to call him the way, we would call our own earthly father, since he is the heavenly Father. So, we come to the Father in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ, in which we also have been baptized, if we follow the text in Matthew 28:19: “baptizing them in the Name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit (which was hovering over the water in Gen. 1:2). For there is no other Name [shem] by which we may be saved [yeshuah]! (Acts 4:12) Note that in the KJV “Saviour” is being used for God as well as for Jesus Christ, in German: “Heiland”. The text in Mark and also in Acts allows us to baptize in the Name of Jesus “only”. The name of Jesus “Yeshuah”, is our Saviour. You can check this out simply by clicking on this link: https://www.bibleserver.com/search/KJVS/saviour/1

The word Elohim does not referre to the Trinity concept nor does "let us make man* referre to it. We find the triune God in other ways, like in Matth. 28:19; 2. Cor. 13:14; John 5;7 (which are all rejected by as proof texts by Arians, Jehovas Witnesses, certain monotheists and others. We find it in the texts of the Old and New Testament, if we only look out for it and in typographical ways, like the three men appearing to Abraham or the baptism of Jesus by John, where the Father speaks: "And a voice from the Spirit descending on Him like a dove. 11And a voice came from heaven: “You are My beloved Son..." (Mark 1:10b-11a)

I noted also, that in German LORD God is written the wrong way around! It says: "Gott der HERR", which is wrong by any translator! In German we say in the vernacular: "der Herrgott". I don't understand why Luther and the other translators could not make HERR Gott out of "Herrgott"! For, in Hebrew it is YHWH Elohim/Yahweh Elohim!


- Christof Bucherer M.Div. (5/1/2017 9:26:14 PM)

#36 Comment on 1 Corinthians 11:19
No need for all these numerous copy of The Holy Bible with different versions of interpretation.
- Disciple (7/16/2016 6:12:41 AM)

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