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Proverbs 13:13 He who despises the Word is destroyed, But he who fears the command is rewarded.
- Mike Gardner (8/10/2019 7:51:18 PM)
Most of the posts were OPPOSED to the nephillim doctrine as I see yours is as well and my previous post also. I agree with every part of your context. Good points! I must inform you though that bene Elohim does also refer to heavenly messengers (What you refer to as "angels", BUT NOT THE MANUSCRIPTS, usually they are referred to as melakim- men with beards without wings; not women).
Here are the passages that refer to heavenly messengers that are bene Elohim:

Job 1: 6 And the day came to be that the sons of Elohim came to present themselves before Yahweh יהוה, and Satan also came among them.

Job 2: 1 Again the day came to be that the sons of Elohim came to present themselves before Yahweh יהוה, and Satan also came among them to present himself before Yahweh יהוה.

Job 38: 7 when the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of Elohim shouted for joy?

These 3 passages confirm that heavenly messengers
are also called sons of Elohim or bene Elohim!


- Mike Gardner (8/9/2019 5:28:40 PM)
Scriptural Proof that Angels and Mankind Cannot Marry
There were NO extraterrestrial relations, and 1st Corinthians 15:39,40 proves it…
“All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
This Scripture passage plainly states that men are men, animals are animals, fish are fish, birds are birds, and angels are angels. There is not one Scriptural reference which would even remotely lead us to believe that angels and humans ever had sex. Jesus plainly stated in Mark 12:25 concerning the departed saints… “For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.” I think this Scripture verse is self-explanatory. Carefully notice that Genesis 6:2 states… “and they took them wives of all which they chose.” Mark 12:25 says that angels cannot marry; but Genesis 6:2 says that the sons of God married the daughters of men. Clearly there would be a serious contradiction in the Scriptures here IF the sons of God were angels
Also, why didn’t God mention any punishment for the angels in Genesis? Genesis 6:7 states… “And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.” “Angels” are NOT mentioned. Surely God would have been very angry with a group of angels that defiled his creation, bringing it to ruin.
- R. CHAUDHARY (8/9/2019 2:59:27 AM)
Agreed. Better translation of Genesis 6:1-4 would be then Young's Literal Translation:

1 And it cometh to pass that mankind have begun to multiply on the face of the ground, and daughters have been born to them,

2 and sons of G-d see the daughters of men that they [are] fair, and they take to themselves women of all whom they have chosen.

3 And Jehovah (Yahweh) saith, ‘My Spirit doth not strive in man — to the age; in their erring they [are] flesh:’ and his days have been an hundred and twenty years.

4 The fallen ones were in the earth in those days, and even afterwards when sons of G-d come in unto daughters of men [Cain's female descendants], and they have borne to them — they [are] the heroes, who, from of old, [are] the men of name (Fame or renown similar as "Nimrod was".

Gen. 10:
8 And Kush brought forth Nimrod, he began to be a mighty one on the earth.

9 He was a mighty hunter before [AGAINST] Yahweh יהוה, therefore it is said, “Like Nimrod, the mighty hunter before [AGAINST] Yahweh יהוה.”

Note the punishment from Genesis 6:4 was a limit on longevity for humankind generally to 120 years. No punishment meted out to the fallen messengers because they were not the involved with the mating physically, not firsthand as ha Satan was in Genesis 3 as deceiver/liar/anarchy. And he received the punishment, for he was speaking through [His demonic, unclean spirit.] such:

14 And יהוה Yahweh Elohim said to the serpent, “Because you have done this, you are cursed more than all livestock and more than every beast of the field. On your belly you are to go, and eat dust all the days of your life.

15“And I put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed. He shall crush your head, and you shall crush His heel.”

Many who are NOT able to follow the context of Genesis 6:4 often point out that the sons of G-d/Elohim in the original texts are heavenly messengers. But I state unto them that the "bene Elohim" = sons of the Mighty One= HUMAN BEINGS are in the following texts:

Psalm 82: Speaking of the judges and priests-

6 I, I said, “You are elohim, And all of you are SONS of the Most High.

7“But as MEN you (will) die, And fall as one of the heads/leaders.”

Luke 20:36 for neither is it possible for them to die any more, because they are like messengers and are sons of Elohim, being sons of the resurrection.

Romans 8:
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit [Torah, Mosaic Law, less animal blood offerings and temple rituals- verses 1-13, verse] of Elohim, these are sons of Elohim.

19 For the intense longing of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of Elohim.

Galatians 3:
26 For you are all sons of Elohim through belief in Messiah Yahshua יהושע.

Matthew 5:
9 “Blessed are the peacemakers, because they shall be called sons of Elohim.

Deuteronomy 14:
1“You are the children of Yahweh יהוה your Elohim.....

1 John 3:
1 See what love the Father has given us, that we should be called children of Elohim!

2 Beloved ones, now we are children of Elohim. And it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is.

John 1:
12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the authority to become children of Elohim, to those believing in His Name,

13 who were born, not of blood nor of the desire of flesh nor of the desire of man, but of Elohim.

Sons or children of Elohim can as one can see are also HUMAN BEINGS!

From your posting:

"Demons take advantage of those who believe in the fiction to delude them and invoke fear"

I would also add that they also play along with the notion that they fear J-sus [A name around only 5-6 hundred years approx]. Which perpetuates the masquerade through millennia. Majesty on High's Name root is YAH.

Thanks Larry
- Mike Gardner (8/8/2019 11:37:24 PM)
Notwithstanding the fact that the bible excludes demon-human hybrids through sexual procreation, I do believe in demonic activity, that demons do masquerade as aliens, taking advantage of the overwhelming amount of fiction to deceive their victims. Demons take advantage of those who believe in the fiction to delude them and invoke fear. I also believe that the Name of Jesus will drive them away because I have experienced and witnessed these types of attacks or encounters.
Demons don’t need sexual procreation to inhabit-possess a body. Jesus cast out numerous demons, even sent them into the swine. And He said to the Pharisees/hypocrites “Ye are of your father the devil”, He was not saying that their mothers has sex with Satan and they were the resultant offspring. There were, and there still are multitudes of demon possessed whose father is the devil out there even today, but they are not sexually procreated demon-human hybrids.
- Nicklas Arthur (8/8/2019 8:11:41 AM)
Nephilim, from nephal meaning giants or fallen in Hebrew.
Septuagint Greek gives that impression with the word being translated "giants". Greek culture embedded with folklore and mythologies.
Context here is mankind, men [Akin to the priesthood] FALLEN from their set apart stature to mate, with multiple wives, with the descendants of Cain (Lawless individuals). Similar to Ezra 10:1-4.
Mark 12: 25“For when they rise from the dead, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are as messengers [Angels as supposed] in the heavens.
They have no ability to physically procreate, as the term marriage implies!

ISR Hebrews 1:4 Being made so much better than the (other) angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent NAME (= YAHWEH than they.

6 And when He again brings the first-born into the world, He says, “Let all the messengers of Elohim do reverence [Not worship- That belongs to father Yahweh-Rev 22:9; Matt. 4:10; 1 Chron. 29:11; 1 Timothy 6:15-16] to Him.

KJV Exodus 23:20 Behold, I send an Angel (HEBREW CULTURE DOES NOT HAVE ANGELS [Greek], BUT MESSENGERS [Bearded men without wings] = "Malak". The book of Malachi = "My Messenger" in Hebrew) before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.
21 Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: FOR MY NAME (YAHWEH and authority) IS IN HIM.
22 But if thou shalt indeed obey his voice, and do all that I speak; then I will be an enemy unto thine enemies, and an adversary unto thine adversaries.
23 For mine Angel shall go before thee, and bring thee in unto the Amorites, and the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Canaanites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites: and I will cut them off.

TO PROPERLY UNDERSTAND THE HEBREW TEXT, ONE HAS TO LOSE THE "ANGELOLOGY"! Salvation is of the Jewish/Hebrew culture and none other.
- Mike Gardner (8/7/2019 1:56:46 AM)
For to which of the angels did He ever say,
“You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You”?
And again,
“I will be a Father to Him
And He shall be a Son to Me”? Heb. 1:4,5

- shalom (8/6/2019 8:13:18 PM) []
For to which of the angels did He ever say,
“You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You”?
And again,
“I will be a Father to Him
And He shall be a Son to Me”? Heb. 1:4,5

- shalom (8/6/2019 4:50:23 PM) []

- child of God (6/20/2019 9:33:40 AM) []
There were giants in the earth in those days; In the king James it has a semicolon others do not. Yet the use of the semicolon means more than a comma which is right to use here?
- Larry (4/10/2016 9:21:33 PM)
What about the word "came"?
- Derrick (3/29/2012 1:28:13 AM) []

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