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אָבִיו of his father; #0001 אָב 'ab {avb}; Noun -Masculine; father of an individual, of God as father of his people, head or founder of a household, group, family, or clan, ancestor. See Genesis 9:23 for the conclusion.
אֲחֹרַנִּית backward #0322אֲחֹרַנִּית ' achoranniyth {akh-o-ran-neeth'}adverb; backwards, back part, the rear.
Now observe what happens when these Hebrew words are morphed to their roots.
#0299אֲחִירַע ' Achiyra` {akh-ee-rah'} Noun -Masculine; Ahira = "my brother is evil", a chief of Naphtali.
Then from here it branches into two dissimilar paths.
1) #0251אָח ' ach {awkh}; Noun -Masculine; brother of same parents. #0001 אָב 'ab {avb}; Noun -Masculine; father of an individual, of God as father of his people, head or founder of a household, group, family, or clan, ancestor;
2) and #7451רָע ra` {rah} adjective; bad or evil, #748 רָעַע ra`a` {raw-ah' } verb; to be bad, to be evil.
Before continuing the morphology of the words is there some tradition for walking backwards in Jewish culture? The answer would be yes. One walks seven circles during a kiddushin (marriage) ceremony in the process of binding yourselves to each other. In the disseverment of a marriage each chants the seven lines of the same prayer and unbinds oneself by tracing the seven circles in reverse as you walk away from the union. Lamentations 1:8 “Jerusalem has grievously sinned; therefore she is removed: all that honored her despise her, because they have seen her nakedness: yes, she sighs, and turns backward.” Walking backward from or to someone is perceived as the breaking of a promise, pact or covenant in Jewish custom. Here walking backward appears to show reverence to their father because to expose ones nakedness was to disgrace or degrade oneself.
With all this walking backward, what can we grasp from this text? Assuming that all the text of this passage are metaphorical imagery. The ancestry of the peoples of Šhëm שֵׁם and Yefet יֶפֶת; will conceal the shame of חָם Cham’s lineage through נֹחַ Noach in unspecified methods.
#8071 שִׂמְלָה garment simlah {sim-law'} noun feminine; perhaps used as an alternative for the masculine of #5566 סֶמֶל cemel {seh'-mel} Noun - Masculine (through the idea of a cover assuming the shape of the object beneath), image, statue, idol. And again, we have a feminine component in grammar, which by all rights may indicate the covering of the sins of a nation, people or land that possibly would be specifically for that of idol worship and practice.
Is this record of נֹחַ Noach differing substantially from what you were all led to accept as fact, in most commentaries and or narratives, translations, or studies of the scriptures. From my limited understanding of the workings of God, I can distinguish a minuscule glimpse toward understanding this portion of God’s word and that of his servants of distinction. For the record, I am not stating that past historical scholars have misinterpreted this portion of the Torah but that there may be other hidden meanings that they may not have perceived. I know they were probably under a tremendous burden to interpret all of the Torah. Again, I am not passing judgment on past commentaries or objecting to past historical works but just throwing in my 2 cents worth in better understanding God’s word. God can even inspire the least in the kingdom of God to bring to light the meaning for His Word, no matter how far this prevalent idea may appear.
- Revgrad (9/14/2017 8:46:56 AM)
אֲחֹרַנִּית backward #0322אֲחֹרַנִּית ' achoranniyth {akh-o-ran-neeth'}adverb; backwards, back part, the rear.
Now observe what happens when these Hebrew words are morphed to their roots.
#0299אֲחִירַע ' Achiyra` {akh-ee-rah'} Noun -Masculine; Ahira = "my brother is evil", a chief of Naphtali.
Then from here it branches into two dissimilar paths.
1) #0251אָח ' ach {awkh}; Noun -Masculine; brother of same parents. #0001 אָב 'ab {avb}; Noun -Masculine; father of an individual, of God as father of his people, head or founder of a household, group, family, or clan, ancestor;
2) and #7451רָע ra` {rah} adjective; bad or evil, #748 רָעַע ra`a` {raw-ah' } verb; to be bad, to be evil.
Before continuing the morphology of the words is there some tradition for walking backwards in Jewish culture? The answer would be yes. One walks seven circles during a kiddushin (marriage) ceremony in the process of binding yourselves to each other. In the disseverment of a marriage each chants the seven lines of the same prayer and unbinds oneself by tracing the seven circles in reverse as you walk away from the union. Lamentations 1:8 “Jerusalem has grievously sinned; therefore she is removed: all that honored her despise her, because they have seen her nakedness: yes, she sighs, and turns backward.” Walking backward from or to someone is perceived as the breaking of a promise, pact or covenant in Jewish custom. Here walking backward appears to show reverence to their father because to expose ones nakedness was to disgrace or degrade oneself.
With all this walking backward, what can we grasp from this text? Assuming that all the text of this passage are metaphorical imagery. The ancestry of the peoples of Šhëm שֵׁם and Yefet יֶפֶת; will conceal the shame of חָם Cham’s lineage through נֹחַ Noach in unspecified methods.
#8071 שִׂמְלָה garment simlah {sim-law'} noun feminine; perhaps used as an alternative for the masculine of #5566 סֶמֶל cemel {seh'-mel} Noun - Masculine (through the idea of a cover assuming the shape of the object beneath), image, statue, idol. And again, we have a feminine component in grammar, which by all rights may indicate the covering of the sins of a nation, people or land that possibly would be specifically for that of idol worship and practice.
Is this record of נֹחַ Noach differing substantially from what you were all led to accept as fact, in most commentaries and or narratives, translations, or studies of the scriptures. From my limited understanding of the workings of God, I can distinguish a minuscule glimpse toward understanding this portion of God’s word and that of his servants of distinction. For the record, I am not stating that past historical scholars have misinterpreted this portion of the Torah but that there may be other hidden meanings that they may not have perceived. I know they were probably under a tremendous burden to interpret all of the Torah. Again, I am not passing judgment on past commentaries or objecting to past historical works but just throwing in my 2 cents worth in better understanding God’s word. God can even inspire the least in the kingdom of God to bring to light the meaning for His Word, no matter how far this prevalent idea may appear.
- Revgrad (9/14/2017 8:46:56 AM)
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