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Song of Songs 7:9 [study!]

American Standard Version (ASV 1901) [2]
— And thy mouth like the best wine, That goeth down smoothly for my beloved, Gliding through the lips of those that are asleep.
King James Version (KJV 1769)
— And the roof of thy mouth like the best wine for my beloved, that goeth [down] sweetly, causing the lips of those that are asleep to speak.
New American Standard Bible (NASB ©1995)
— And your mouth like the best wine!” “It goes [down] smoothly for my beloved, Flowing gently [through] the lips of those who fall asleep.
Webster's Revision of the KJB (WEB 1833)
— And the roof of thy mouth like the best wine for my beloved, that goeth [down] sweetly, causing the lips of those that are asleep to speak.
Darby's Translation (DBY 1890)
— And the roof of thy mouth like the best wine, ... That goeth down smoothly for my beloved, And stealeth over the lips of them that are asleep.
Rotherham's Emphasized Bible (EBR 1902)
— And, thy mouth, like good wine—[SHE] Flowing to my beloved smoothly, gliding over the lips of the sleeping.
Young's Literal Translation (YLT 1898)
— And thy palate as the good wine—'Flowing to my beloved in uprightness, Strengthening the lips of the aged!
Douay-Rheims Challoner Revision (DR 1750)
— Thy throat like the best wine, worthy for my beloved to drink, and for his lips and his teeth to ruminate.
Original King James Bible (AV 1611) [2]
— And the roofe of thy mouth like the best wine, for my beloued, that goeth [downe] sweetely, causing the lippes of those that are asleepe, to speake.
Brenton Greek Septuagint (LXX, Restored Names)
— and thy throat as good wine, going well with my kinsman, suiting my lips and teeth.
Full Hebrew Names / Holy Name KJV (2008) [2] [3]
— And the roof of thy mouth like the best wine for my beloved, that goeth [down] sweetly, causing the lips of those that are asleep to speak.

Strong's Numbers & Hebrew NamesHebrew Old TestamentColor-Code/Key Word Studies
And the roof of thy mouth 2441
{2441} Prime
חֵךְ
chek
{khake}
Probably from H2496 in the sense of tasting; properly the palate or inside of the mouth; hence the mouth itself (as the organ of speech, taste and kissing).
like the best 2896
{2896} Prime
טוֹב
towb
{tobe}
From H2895; good (as an adjective) in the widest sense; used likewise as a noun, both in the masculine and the feminine, the singular and the plural (good, a good or good thing, a good man or woman; the good, goods or good things, good men or women), also as an adverb (well).
wine 3196
{3196} Prime
יַיִן
yayin
{yah'-yin}
From an unused root meaning to effervesce; wine (as fermented); by implication intoxication.
for my beloved, 1730
{1730} Prime
דּוֹד
dowd
{dode}
From an unused root meaning properly to boil, that is, (figuratively) to love; by implication a love token, lover, friend; specifically an uncle.
that goeth 1980
{1980} Prime
הָלַךְ
halak
{haw-lak'}
Akin to H3212; a primitive root; to walk (in a great variety of applications, literally and figuratively).
z8802
<8802> Grammar
Stem - Qal (See H8851)
Mood - Participle Active (See H8814)
Count - 5386
[down] sweetly, 4339
{4339} Prime
מֵישָׁר
meyshar
{may-shawr'}
From H3474; evenness, that is, (figuratively) prosperity or concord; also straightness, that is, (figuratively) rectitude (only in plural with singular sense; often adverbially).
causing the lips 8193
{8193} Prime
שָׂפָה
saphah
{saw-faw'}
(The second form is in dual and plural); Probably from H5595 or H8192 through the idea of termination (compare H5490); the lip (as a natural boundary); by implication language; by analogy a margin (of a vessel, water, cloth, etc.).
of those that are asleep 3463
{3463} Prime
יָשֵׁן
yashen
{yaw-shane'}
From H3462; sleepy.
to speak. 1680
{1680} Prime
דָּבַב
dabab
{daw-bab'}
A primitive root (compare H1679); to move slowly, that is, glide.
z8802
<8802> Grammar
Stem - Qal (See H8851)
Mood - Participle Active (See H8814)
Count - 5386
Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Commentary

Song of Songs 7:9

_ _ roof of thy mouth — thy voice (Proverbs 15:23).

_ _ best wine — the new wine of the gospel kingdom (Mark 14:25), poured out at Pentecost (Acts 2:4, Acts 2:13, Acts 2:17).

_ _ for my beloved — (Song of Songs 4:10). Here first the daughters call Him theirs, and become one with the bride. The steps successively are (Song of Songs 1:5) where they misjudge her (Song of Songs 3:11); Song of Songs 5:8, where the possibility of their finding Him, before she regained Him, is expressed; Song of Songs 5:9 (Song of Songs 6:1; Song of Songs 7:6, Song of Songs 7:9; John 4:42).

_ _ causing ... asleep to speak — (Isaiah 35:6; Mark 5:19, Mark 5:20; Acts 2:47; Ephesians 5:14). Jesus Christ’s first miracle turned water into “good wine kept until now” (John 2:10); just as the Gospel revives those asleep and dying under the law (Proverbs 31:6; Romans 7:9, Romans 7:10, Romans 7:24, Romans 7:25; Romans 8:1).

Matthew Henry's Commentary

See commentary on Song of Songs 7:1-9.

John Wesley's Explanatory Notes

Song of Songs 7:9

Thy mouth — Thy speech, the palate being one of the principal instruments of speech. Wine — Grateful and refreshing for thee my beloved, who reapest the comfort and benefit of that pleasure which I take in thee. Causing — The most dull, and stupid, and sleepy persons to speak.

Geneva Bible Translation Notes

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the roof:

Song of Songs 2:14 O my dove, [that art] in the clefts of the rock, in the secret [places] of the stairs, let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet [is] thy voice, and thy countenance [is] comely.
Song of Songs 5:16 His mouth [is] most sweet: yea, he [is] altogether lovely. This [is] my beloved, and this [is] my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.
Proverbs 16:24 Pleasant words [are as] an honeycomb, sweet to the soul, and health to the bones.
Ephesians 4:29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.
Colossians 3:16-17 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. ... And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, [do] all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.
Colossians 4:6 Let your speech [be] alway with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man.
Hebrews 13:15 By him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of [our] lips giving thanks to his name.

the best:

Isaiah 62:8-9 The LORD hath sworn by his right hand, and by the arm of his strength, Surely I will no more give thy corn [to be] meat for thine enemies; and the sons of the stranger shall not drink thy wine, for the which thou hast laboured: ... But they that have gathered it shall eat it, and praise the LORD; and they that have brought it together shall drink it in the courts of my holiness.
Zechariah 9:15-17 The LORD of hosts shall defend them; and they shall devour, and subdue with sling stones; and they shall drink, [and] make a noise as through wine; and they shall be filled like bowls, [and] as the corners of the altar. ... For how great [is] his goodness, and how great [is] his beauty! corn shall make the young men cheerful, and new wine the maids.
Acts 2:11-13 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God. ... Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.
Acts 2:46-47 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart, ... Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.
Acts 4:31-32 And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness. ... And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any [of them] that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
Acts 16:30-34 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? ... And when he had brought them into his house, he set meat before them, and rejoiced, believing in God with all his house.

sweetly:
Heb. straightly

those that are asleep:
or, the ancient,
Song of Songs 5:2 I sleep, but my heart waketh: [it is] the voice of my beloved that knocketh, [saying], Open to me, my sister, my love, my dove, my undefiled: for my head is filled with dew, [and] my locks with the drops of the night.
Romans 13:11 And that, knowing the time, that now [it is] high time to awake out of sleep: for now [is] our salvation nearer than when we believed.
1 Thessalonians 4:13-14 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. ... For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
Revelation 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed [are] the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.
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Psalm 36:1{To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David the servant of Yahweh} The transgression of the wicked saith within my heart, that there is no fear of Elohim before his eyes.

Frank, maybe if you were more teachable you could respect Yahweh your heavenly Father in so much as you would not blaspheme His Name or His Son's Name! To keep perpetuating error to sell your book is distancing yourself further and further from Him. These idols names you circulate is the tradition of the heathenish Christology and the nations from antiquity translated from the Grecian tongue in their proto form worshiped wood and stone. Religious prostitution, child immolation, homosexuality, incest, pedophilia and pederasty, Wicca, bestiality, personal works of the flesh as a way of life, warfare, deceitfulness, etc.... are the ways of the nations.

1 Timothy 1: 8 And we know that the Torah is good if one uses it legitimately,

9 knowing this: that Torah is not laid down for a righteous being, but for the lawless and unruly, for the wicked and for sinners, for the wrong-doers and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers,

10 for those who whore, for sodomites, for kidnappers, for liars, for perjurers, and for whatever else that is contrary to sound teaching,

11 according to the esteemed Good News of the blessed Elohim which was entrusted to me.

12 And I thank Messiah יהושע our Master who empowered me, because He counted me trustworthy, putting me into service,

13 me, although I was formerly a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and an insulter. But compassion was shown me because being ignorant I did it in unbelief.

Israel made a covenant with Yahweh by the Written Torah (Not the Talmud, nor Christology and its sects) through the ages. The TaNaK is biblical (Luke 24:27; Eph. 2:20; Matt. 5:17; Ibid 22:40; Luke 16:16; Acts 1:45.....etc...). The new and old testaments is a term coined by heretic Marcion of Sinope from 1-2 C.E. Marcion preached that the mighty one who sent Yahshua into the world was a different, higher deity than the creator mighty one of Judaism.He considered himself a follower of Paul the Apostle, who he believed to have been the only true apostle of Yahshua Messiah (Who he called as you do Frank, Iēsous Christos). Carrying traditions will get us no where with Yahweh (Less they are the Written Torah), as Yahshua spoke:Matt 15 and Mark 7: 7 And in vain do they worship Me, teaching as teachings the commands of men.

8“Forsaking the command of Elohim , you hold fast the tradition of men.”

9 And He said to them, “Well do you set aside the command of Elohim

[Such as Exodus 23:13; Ibid 20:7 and 22:20; Joshua 23:6-8; Psalm 16:4 Deut 6:14- The nation s have and do now still worship demons in the names of blasphemy whether they acknowledge it or not Rev 17:3-5; 1 Cor. 10:20 because they have inculcated with these traditions since times of antiquity- To avoid this get a Hebraic understanding of Scripture by getting a Sacred Name bible and free oneself from the traditions of the pagan names and titles of ill repute of our Heavenly Father Yahweh and His Son Yahshua!],

in order to guard/keep your tradition.
- Love of Yahweh (10/11/2019 5:30:31 AM)
“Best wine flows down” – S. of S. 7:9. The path of bridal love is toward the Beloved Christ. The love of God flowed in Christ in becoming a man, in His crucifixion and resurrection, then as the Spirit, His love flowed into us. Now the best wine of bridal love flows back to Him.
- Frank Pytel, "The Two Become One" (10/10/2019 5:44:36 PM)
Hellenistic Hogwash!! Solomon the womanizer depicting Satan is schmoozing the Shulamite woman depicting the Messiah's body of believers in Torah/Israelites. In verse 10 the Shepherd boy depicts the Messiah Yahshua whom the Shulamite expresses her fidelity to and spurns Solomon. ONLY SOMEONE WHO IS VESTED IN ERROR AND LIES WOULD KEEP DOUBLING DOWN ON FALSEHOOD AND DOES NOT REVERE THE MAJESTY ON HIGH!
“Best wine goes down smoothly” – S. of S. 7:9. The loving bride is the best wine going down and flowing sweetly and straightly toward Christ. Every obstacle, interruption or disagreement to love has been removed righteously, insuring a firm foundation for a mutual flow of love.

Frank what are you smoking???
- Frank Pytel, "The Two Become One" (10/9/2019 5:35:05 PM)




Zechariah 13:
2“And it shall be in that day,” declares יהוה of hosts, “that I cut off the names of the idols [Chr-stos, L-rd, G-d, J-sus etc...] from the earth, and they shall be remembered no more, and I shall also remove the prophets and the unclean spirit from the earth.
3“And it shall be, when one prophesies again, then his father and mother who brought him forth shall say to him, ‘You shall not to live, because you have spoken FALSEHOOD in the Name of יהוה [Although you don't speak it, you refer to Him]. And his father and mother who brought him forth shall pierce him through [Execute him] when he prophesies [LIES].

Psalm 81:15“Those who hate YAHWEH יהוה would/should cringe/submit [Bend one's head and body in fear or in a servile manner.] before Him; And [that] their time of [punishment may] be forever.
- Sober in Yahweh (10/9/2019 7:26:55 PM)
“Best wine goes down smoothly” – S. of S. 7:9. The loving bride is the best wine going down and flowing sweetly and straightly toward Christ. Every obstacle, interruption or disagreement to love has been removed righteously, insuring a firm foundation for a mutual flow of love.
- Frank Pytel, "The Two Become One" (10/9/2019 5:35:05 PM)
“Your mouth” – S. of S. 7:9. Before knowing and living in union with Christ, the words of our mouth were dirty, deceitful and brought forth death. Now as believers of Christ we speak truth, joy and grace. Our words release revelations of the beauties of the One we love!
- Frank Pytel, "The Two Become One' (10/6/2019 6:27:33 AM)
Psalm 119:29 Remove from me the way of falsehood, And favor me with Your Torah.
57 You are my portion, O יהוה; I have promised to guard Your words.
How about this verse Frank!
127 Therefore I have loved Your commands More than gold, even fine gold!
158 I saw traitors and was grieved, Because they did not guard Your word.

Fellowship in the covenant at Pesach, the emblems are matzoh and grape juice. Judaism and Christology are sinning using wine. One cannot use wine to draw close to their Creator. Lev. 10 Nadab and Abihu burned to death from close communion with Yahweh while drunken with strong drink; likely upon Yom Kippur.

8 And יהוה spoke to Aharon, saying,

9“Do not drink WINE or STRONG DRINK, you, nor your sons with you, when you go into the Tent of Meeting, lest you die – A LAW FOREVER throughout your generations,

10 so as to make a distinction between the set-apart and the profane, and between the unclean and the clean,

11 and to teach the children of Yisra’ĕl all the laws which יהוה has spoken to them by the hand of Mosheh.”

DID CHRISTOS CHANGE THAT ALSO???

Passover in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John all describe wine, the fruit of the (GRAPE) vine in the Greek. The Master used grape juice as a symbol of his blood in the Seder and the Emblems of the covenant Renewal. That is why the apostles were mocked in the book of Acts by the Jewish people at Pentecost. There is no justification by the written word to use wine at communion or Passover (The latter, which is what the apostles were keeping, NOT A CHRISTIAN CEREMONY. If one was to google up quarto decimians/ Jewish Christians, as they were labeled, they will find New Testament Torah keepers well into the 4th century C.E.)

So blather on Frank, the poet!

- Watchman of Yahweh (10/3/2019 7:55:21 PM)
“The best wine” – S. of S. 7:9. The superlative wine of the bride is due to her constant filling with the enjoyment of Christ’s love, and with the many sweet pleasures of the excellency of His Person. He is of exceeding value with an unending spiritual supply of life and love to her.
- Frank Pytel, "The Two Become One" (10/3/2019 5:33:25 PM)
“like the best wine” – S. of S. 7:9. A characteristic of the bride is that she is like the select fruit of the vine – the superlative wine that refreshes the hearts. She has become the best wine to “cheer God and man” (Jud. 9:13) – full and overflowing with the joy that comes from the life-changing Christ (John 2:9).
- Frank Pytel, "The Two Become One" (9/30/2019 6:13:54 PM)
RIGHT OUT OF THE TRUE MESSIAH'S MOUTH FRANK:

John 4: 22“You worship what you do not know. We worship what we know, because the deliverance/salvation is of the Yahuḏim.

23“But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father also does seek such to worship Him.

24“Yahweh Elohim is Spirit, and those who worship Him need to worship in spirit and truth.”

THIS IS NOT TRINITARIAN-ISM! EASILY DEBUNKED WITHIN THE SCRIPTURES ALONE!

Just because the book was translated predominantly in Greek, with Greek terms. The underlying manuscripts point directly to a Hebraic language; however the Christologists being the truth seekers that they are continue with this error and blasphemy; of which Rev 17 speaks of and it does not end well; nor does for multitudes in the billions. Idolatry cannot withstand survival from the FLAME OF YAHWEH THAT WILL PASS THROUGH THIS EARTH ONE DAY. ONLY THOSE WHO HAVE THE BLOOD OF THE TRUE MESSIAH YAHSHUA AS A COVERING AND MADE COVENANT WITH YAHWEH AND KEEP HIS WRITTEN TORAH WILL NOT BE HARMED BY IT. MUCH LIKE DANIEL'S 3 FRIENDS. Daniel 3:17 “For if so, our Elah/ Aramaic for Elohim whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning furnace of fire and from your hand, O sovereign – He does deliver! Why were they threatened to be burned in the furnace? Because they would not give obeisance to the obelisk that Nebuchadnezzar had erected. Obelisk means phallus of Bel/Ba'al/Lord. What religion prates around with a huge phallus on their house of worship? Christology!!! Psssss! Guess what, Yahweh hates this imagery on a house of worship to Him! Because it is the Asherah!!! A Penis Depiction!! Deuteronomy 16:21“Do not plant for yourself any tree as an Ashĕrah (For the naysayers, Yahweh hates this idol as well!!) near the altar of יהוה your Elohim that you make for yourself.

22“And do not set up a (idolatrous stone) pillar, which יהוה your Elohim hates (Also).

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Many of the Greek words in most Latter Writings are of PAGAN origin. As a matter of fact the known early Christologist MARCION coined the term "Old and New Testaments." Creating and Old Elohim whom he deemed was monstrous and the New Elohim was only loving. The Romanists took this dogma and fed it to her harlot daughters the Protestants. This is what is with us till today some 1900 plus years later. Truth surely has fallen in the streets!

The first 2/3's of the book though are Hebraic and Aramaic. The early believers were called by others Jewish Christians, Quarto-decimians, Nazarenes...The term Christian is a term of scurrility used in Acts 11:26 to mock the disciples and believers. It's Semitic equivalent which is what the riff raff of Antioch would have spoken would have been "filth" or "evacuation of the bowels". NOT A TERM OF NOBILITY!

Jeremiah 16:

19 O Yahweh יהוה, my strength and my stronghold and my refuge, in the day of distress the (Converted ones from the descendants of the 10 tribes) gentiles shall come to You from the ends of the earth and say, “OUR FATHERS HAVE INHERITED ONLY FALSEHOOD, FUTILITY, AND THERE IS NO VALUE IN THEM. (They have inherited rank Paganism/Witchcraft. Thousands only will come out of this garbage; most will not because they are married to their spurious traditions and are not seeking their Creator by the TaNak as He states in Deuteronomy and are very rebellious and defiant to anything Jewish or Torah.)

Do you know anyone like that Frank?

”20 Would a man make mighty ones for himself, which are not mighty ones?

(Like the Grecian term "Christ", a term used in Greece to denote rubbing an idol, a prostitute or an effeminate with grease, still preserved term in the Latin word "unguent", as well as the cooking grease called "Chrisco Shortening".
The Hebrews always poured pure virgin olive oil as an anointment on the heads of their kings, priests and prophets to dedicate them into service!

21“Therefore see, I am causing them to know, this time I cause them to know My hand and My might. And they shall know that My Name is Yahweh יהוה!”

Matthew 19: 17.....But if you wish to enter into (eternal) life, guard/keep the commandments (Found in the Written Torah).
- Shabbath Shalom (9/28/2019 7:35:11 AM)
“Your mouth” – S. of S. 7:9. The bride’s speech is not vain or with empty words, but words that create faith in Christ. Faith comes by hearing her speak of Christ. She also speaks forth Christ as comfort and encouragement to other seekers that they might love Him more dearly.
- Frank Pytel, "The Two Become One" (9/28/2019 4:37:02 AM)
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